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What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

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What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Aloha from Kaua'i!

I'm obviously not a hugely well traveled person, and have only been to Europe twice (but heading back again this September) from here in Hawai'i.

I read a lot of terms here sometimes that confuse me - for instance, what is considered "long haul" in terms of flights? The duration of the flight-time has to be what - in excess of 10 hours?

Sorry for what is no doubt an ignorant question, but I thought I'd ask here since I couldn't seem to find the answer in searching.

I appreciate your replies!

Malama Pono (take care)

Janet

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1. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Janet,

Interesting question. There are a number of replies that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_length summarises well. And for business travellers, often companies make the rule (in Europe a long haul flight is typically above 4 hours, in the US, 7 hours) as many pay premium eco or business beyond these limits.

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2. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

In the UK, airlines generally class 7 hours or longer as long haul.

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3. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Aloha from Kaua'i!

Thank you very much for the clarification - now I won't feel quite so ignorant!

Malama Pono, (take care)

Janet

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4. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

".....in Europe a long haul flight is typically above 4 hours...."

crikey, what do you (Europeans) call a 13 - 14 hour trans pacific Australia to USA flight then?

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5. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

There is no rule, it all depends on your perception.

For me I classify anything over 11hrs as longhaul. 7hrs-10hrs is mid haul. Short haul anything less than 6hrs.

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6. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Anything over 3 hours (for ME) is too long. But its hard to go anyplace from PHX in that time frame!

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7. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Many airlines now class short haul up to 4 hours,mid haul up to 10 hours and long haul over 10 hours.This is the reason They use for taking first class off all but long haul.Example Cathay Pacific no longer has first class on flights to Australia from Hong Kong,but does on flights to Europe and the US

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8. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

They use for taking first class off all but long haul

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I don't think it's length that's the reason behind dropping F it's just lack of demand. Some of the best performing F routes in the world are pretty short; LHR-JFK for example.

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9. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Hi,

Part of what drives how each airline defines it-- and each airline does use their own definition-- is that once a flight is classified as "long haul" it will commonly trigger some contractual elements that a short-haul sector would not.,

In many cases the airline negotiates what will and will not be called long haul with their unions as long haul is commonly paid at different rates, requires higher staffing ratios/levels, has different rest periods, per diem rates, etc..

Travel Safe,

Edited: 03 May 2012, 04:25
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10. Re: What is considered "long haul" in terms of a flight?

Hello

For me it its anything over 3 hours.

Edited: 03 May 2012, 04:32