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Passenger allowed on wrong flight

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Passenger allowed on wrong flight

Oh Dear

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18624228

Ages ago, I was in a situation when such a mix-up could happen. Two groups of passengers were to walk from their respective gates to the planes at the same time. Then there were non-stop announcements on the plane that it flies to A and not to B, and all boarding passes were double- and triple-checked. All passengers seem to have got it right, on my plane at least.

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1. Re: Passenger allowed on wrong flight

It is *always* the airline's responsibility to ensure that a passenger does not get on the wrong flight. What if the passenger had nefarious motives and was deliberately trying to board the wrong flight?

That said, good for Ryanair for sending him back and then onward, and putting him up for the night, although a cynic might wonder if they hoped that by doing so he wouldn't go public.

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From the article: "Professional surfer Toby Donachie, 19, was supposed to be flying to the south of France, but ended up in Sweden.

He said it raised security issues as his boarding pass was checked twice."

Why would it be a security issue? Regardless of the plane he got on he should have been properly screened. Immigration issue, possibly, but the flight was not unsafe because the wrong person got on board.

I'm not sure what boarding pass scanners check these days, but at times the gate agent just punches in the seat number into the computer, especially if the barcode can't be read. A gate agent is not reading every destination, name, seat number, etc.

Just a fluke where a boarding pass scan, human check, FA headcount, and nobody trying to sit in his lap with the same seat aligned to create an inconvenience, not a safety issue.

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3. Re: Passenger allowed on wrong flight

This does happen because our plane was delayed in Frankfurt because the plane coming funnily enough from Sweden had a passenger on the plane that was'nt bound for Frankfurt, they noticed before the plane left probably because of the head count but he did get past the boarding pass checks.

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6. Re: Passenger allowed on wrong flight

But if he had been a suicide bomber his original flight would have been just as unsafe. If he had been a non-suicide bomber, he would not be likely to try to get on the wrong flight as he would expect his bags to be pulled and would be much more likely to draw attention to himself.

Every little mix-up that happens at an airport is not a security threat. Of course airports everywhere will probably have to spend millions to add additional checks, rescan boarding passes, triple headcounts, etc. as a knee-jerk reaction to something that is not an issue.

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"Oh, and Ryanair don't assign seats."

Forgot about that - has been 10 years since I few Ryanair.

So I guess the solution is to completely change Ryanair's business model. Make them assign seats so that this would be more likely to be detected. Make them redesign the airport with gates where you can't walk to the wrong bus. Slow down turns by re-verifying every boarding pass (with a scan) after the door is closed but before the plane moves. I'm sure nobody will mind the increased fares, since it is making things safer.

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9. Re: Passenger allowed on wrong flight

Where do you see that they did not pull his bags off of his correct flight, or that he even had checked bags in the first place? It is not mentioned in the article.

Bags fly without the passenger on the same plane every day. It may be difficult for the passenger to coordinate, but it can and does happen based on delays, re-routes, late check-in, etc. In these days of shoe/underwear/suicide bombers, security staff being bribed to get drugs (are you sure it is drugs and not a bomb?) on a plane, etc. it is an incredibly tiny mix-up even if he did have checked bags that didn't get pulled.

I never said I am for no security. I am for ending the paranoia of a terrorist hiding around every corner.

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