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Confused about flying times New York to HNL

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Confused about flying times New York to HNL

Looking for direct flight New York to HNL

Kayak gives the following, Hawaiian 51 JFK to HNL non-stop 12h 30, United 15 EWR to HNL non-stop 10h 54.

Even more confusingly on the return trip Hawaiian 50 gives 8h 35

I'd prefer to be on the plane for 8 hours rather than 12, why these differences on non-stop flights?

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1. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

What dates? I'm seeing Hawaiin 51 as 10 hours 30 minutes on July 19, and Inited 15 as 10 hours 36 minutes for the same date.

On the return, Hawaiin 50 is showing 9 hours 35 minutes.

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2. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

flying west to east is always quicker.

and maybe the routes differ.

and maybe there is a delay factor built into departing JFK airport

check out flightaware for the actual flight time history.

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3. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

The difference on the return flight will probably be due to prevailing winds - it always tends to be quicker flying in a west to east direction.

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4. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

dates were 4 April 2014 and 11 April 2014

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5. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

I see the same things as you in my system (Galileo) and they are all non stop.

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6. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

You're asking a very difficult question, and I think the answer is complicated. I had the same question on a flight from the western US to Korea last year. One flight was 10 hours, and mine was about 13 hours - for the very same pair of airports???

Any pilots on TA today? Flying is much more complicated than the public is aware of.

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7. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

You might find your answer here:

airliners.net/aviation-forums/…

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8. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL51

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL15

not a 12 hour flight to be seen.

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9. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

This is right in the system when I book the flight.

The flights is 12hrs and 30mins.

1 HA 51 Y JFKHNL 332 breakfast/snack 12:30

non-smoking

DEPARTS JFK TERMINAL 5 - ARRIVES HNL TERMINAL Z

TSA secured flight

This is right out of the flight service. I just copied it and did not change anything but the lower case letters instead of caps since TA wouldn't allow me to post with the caps.

Edited: 27 June 2013, 01:50
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10. Re: Confused about flying times New York to HNL

Are you sure you are reading the times correctly .... according to Hawaii's site the time for HA50 is 575 minutes, that's just under 10 hours.

Going JFK to Hawaii varies between 690 and 750 minutes, depending on the day.