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Airline fares not making sense.

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Airline fares not making sense.

For instance, say you are using the dates Dec 9 to Dec 17 from Houston to Istanbul. The lowest price is KLM for $730 which stops in Amsterdam first and then goes to Istanbul.

So when you see that amount of $730 to Istanbul you end up thinking well if I just stay in Amsterdam I get the ticket for that as well, but once you change the details to say Houston to Amsterdam the price jumps to $958.

My question is mainly what happens if you booked the ticket to Istanbul for the $730 amount, but just stayed in Amsterdam instead since the airline KLM goes there anyway for any connecting flights for international flights. Would the rest of your reservation get cancelled since you would not have been on the flight from Amsterdam to Istanbul and back from Instanbul to Amsterdam before you return from Amsterdam to Houston?

How would that work?

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11. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

If you want a cheaper flight from IAH to AMS, then look for one stops on other airlines. You may well find United/Lufthansa or American/BA offering a good deal by undercutting KLM because of the "inconvenience" of having to change at another city en route (Newark, DC, Frankfurt, London, JFK).

Don't get greedy and try to hidden city ticket just for the "cheap" non stop, which won't work for all the reasons previously mentioned.

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12. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

Of course rdglady. That's why I said "But all the other issues apply." It is not something one should attempt, unless possibly one is on the second=last leg of the trip needing to collect bags anyway. But it is always against the T&Cs.

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13. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

Or they could against everyone's advice, write a TR, and we can include it in the FAQ's for excellent first hand reference.

Or sensibly accept the advice and not.

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14. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

OK so they do that because they know people will always prefer the nonstop flight and thus always have customers for those flights. So they want to get you into taking a cheaper flight to a city where nonstop flights are offered as well but where you have to make a stop on the route.

Edited: 27 October 2013, 21:58
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I have actually met people and seen posters on this forum who have taken indirect flights because they are cheaper. I once met a Canadian in NZ who had flown Toronto to Auckland via Anchorage and HK with 6 hour layovers at both Anchorage and HK. I have also seen a poster on this forum who was seriously considering flying Sydney to LA via Shanghai. Both were motivated by price. So the marketing does work.

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16. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

If you travel from Australia to Europe it's cheaper to land in Rome than London, even though you change planes in London for Rome ... go figure. It's actually to do with taxes ... I was told this (might not be right) you can only be taxed once in the Euro zone, so paying the Rome tax is cheaper than UK. It sort of makes sense because the fare certainly doesn't.

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17. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

If you travel from Australia to Europe it's cheaper to land in Rome than London, even though you change planes in London for Rome ... go figure. It's actually to do with taxes

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Only partially, and hardly at all with economy tickets, its much more to do with the extra inconvenience meaning that airlines set a lower price to encourage people to whom money is more important than time. That's why the fare actually DOES make sense because who on earth would want to pay more for a longer and more inconvenient flight?

The only way that, BA for example, could convince people to choose them to fly to Rome from Oz via London, than direct with some other airline, is to price accordingly, eg cheaper.

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18. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

It is all to do with taxes ...there are no arrival or departure taxes on transits so BA win both ways...no processing charges on the passenger arriving in the UK and no processing charges for the same person leaving the UK as they sit in transit. All they pay are the Italian landing taxes.

Much cheaper to get one of these passengers than someone landing and staying in UK and another flying to Rome from UK. And they fill a seat on what would be a competitive route.

The class of traveller doesn't determine cost of taxes they are ALL the same, some airlines will sell a seat cheaper than the taxes as they know they can make it up on other seats.

Believe it or not you still have those here that think you still have to fly to London first to get to Europe! Mainly due to no European carriers flying out of Melbourne or Sydney, other than Asian carriers you have BA and QF who only do/did London and Frankfurt. The European carriers only go as far as Singapore, there is not enough traffic going to Europe for them to make any money coming here..People don't realise you can change carriers at stopovers to get to other destinations. BA know that and play to it. better money in their own pockets than a codeshare

The internet is opening peoples eyes regarding choice now but old habits and ideas are hard to quash.

Edited: 28 October 2013, 01:58
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19. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

Taxes certainly contributes to the fare calculation, but it has more to do with load capacity distribution (channel management), yield optimization (not just revenue, but also cost dispersion, best utilization of code shares), and of course marketing to target demographics.

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20. Re: Airline fares not making sense.

joeintheuk ... actually the price can be considerably different in economy. Last Oct/Nov we had four weeks through Europe. Starting in Amsterdam (via Heathrow) and ending in Rome ... all on BA so all via Heathrow. The fare difference for choosing Rome as a final destination was around $450 ... granted it was a sale fare but that is still quite a difference had we left from London and only an additional 3.5 hours to a 27 hour trip.

Edited: 28 October 2013, 02:43