We noticed that you're using an unsupported browser. The TripAdvisor website may not display properly.
We support the following browsers:
Windows: Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome. Mac: Safari.

eurorail

Wellington, New...
10 posts
Save Topic
eurorail

At the beginning of June I will travel by train from Naples to Rome then after 3 days Rome to Florence the 3 days later on to Paris. I cannot work out if this will count as 2 countries or three due to passing through Switzerland, is the Eurorail the best pass for this travel? It appears I cannot use a pass to then go from Paris to London,

Sydney, Australia
Level Contributor
8,645 posts
29 reviews
Save Reply
1. Re: eurorail

Forget about Eurail pass, it is the most expensive way to travel by train in Europe.

Have a read through the bible of European rail travel: www.seat61.com, and also search this forum for Eurail, and then you will learn why it is not something that all of us recommend here.

Just as an example, if you use Eurail pass to travel by Eurostar from London to Paris, your 'surcharge' is 82 pounds to use the Eurail pass, whereas you can buy a direct ticket for that route for as cheap as 50-60 pounds. See: eurostar.com/uk-en/….UvK6Wfvpxb8

You can get cheap fares by booking directly, e.g. Rome to Florence for about € 29, you can book as early as 120 days prior. From Florence to Paris, there is no direct train. The easiest would be from Turin or Milan, approximately € 45 when booked early on certain days (Mondays tend to be more expensive).

Rome to Florence, book with www.trenitalia.com

Book Turin to Paris with en.voyages-sncf.com

Edited: 05 February 2014, 22:28
Sydney, Australia
Level Contributor
8,645 posts
29 reviews
Save Reply
2. Re: eurorail

Another example, projecting 4 months ahead, I am getting prices for several departures in the morning, for Rome to Florence, of € 19 per person.

Adelaide
Level Contributor
4,621 posts
205 reviews
Save Reply
3. Re: eurorail

Don't buy a pass. And don't believe any travel agent who tells you a Eurail pass is the best way to go. In Australia and New Zealand the travel agents don't have a clue about train travel in Europe, and will always on-sell the option that gives them the most commission.

You've also picked two of the worst possible countries for using a Eurail pass. Both France and Italy have compulsory seat reservations for pass holders. In Italy it costs €10 per person per trip. In France the seat reservation for pass holders has been known to be more than the cost of point to point tickets. These reservation costs are over and above the cost of your already expensive pass.

Also in France there are strict quotas on the amount of pass holder seats on any fast train. Once that quota is reached you have no option except buying a full price walk-up fare, or waiting for a later train. Friends of ours spent an entire day sitting in Gare de Lyon waiting for a train to Nice that still had seats available for pass holders. One day completely wasted.

Tickets for the Italian trains you want can be bought in advance for as little as €19. Compare that to your pass day cost plus the €10 compulsory reservation. And as Hadiwi so correctly pointed out, it actually costs more to go Paris to London with a pass than it does to just buy an advance ticket.

Edited: 06 February 2014, 03:43
Sydney, Australia
Destination Expert
for Train Travel
Level Contributor
83,102 posts
13 reviews
Save Reply
4. Re: eurorail

For trains in Italy, see www.trenitalia.com and www.italotreno.it

For France, en.voyages-sncf.com/en and do not accept any proposed redirection to RailEurope.

To get from Florence to Paris, you would not go through Switzerland. You take an Italian train from Florence to Milan or Turin, then a French train to Paris.

Imperia, Italy
Destination Expert
for Italian Riviera
Level Contributor
28,164 posts
Save Reply
5. Re: eurorail

The Thello night train from Milan to Paris does pass through Switzerland. But passes are not accepted at all on that train. To add another voice to the chorus, don't buy a pass!

Sydney, Australia
Destination Expert
for Train Travel
Level Contributor
83,102 posts
13 reviews
Save Reply
6. Re: eurorail

That's interesting. When we made the mistake of taking the Paris-Venice night train some years ago, it went through the Frejus tunnel rather than through Switzerland.

Wellington, New...
10 posts
Save Reply
7. Re: eurorail

Thank you all so much I will not get a pass this has been really useful.

Delhi
Level Contributor
1 post
86 reviews
Save Reply
8. Re: eurorail

Fantastic guys! you just busted a 'MYTH' and saved me tons of money. Tips like this matter so much to Budget Traveller's like us who want to travel but have limited budget.

Bruges, Belgium
Level Contributor
1 post
18 reviews
Save Reply
9. Re: eurorail

Booked tickets on Eurostar through Eurorail approx 5 March. Despite confirming we would receive 'tickets' to be printed off in three days it took three weeks to get the tickets even though Eurorail had our money on day two. When asked where the tickets were we were told they were 'under review' - further emails elicited no response and eventually an email confirming we could print the tickets off arrived three weeks later. Very poor service and very poor communication.

A second booking directly with Eurostar was efficiently made and tickets able to be printed within 10 minutes. I would not personally recommend using Eurorail for Eurostar tickets.

Imperia, Italy
Destination Expert
for Italian Riviera
Level Contributor
28,164 posts
Save Reply
10. Re: eurorail

Euro Railways, which used to until recently but apparently no longer has Eurorail web addresses, is a US travel agent, with a business address apparently located in a domestic apartment in Coral Springs, Florida. It has received a number of adverse comments in past threads on Tripadvisor.

Eurail, to which Eurorail web addresses now lead, sells train passes to non-European residents but does not sell train tickets, neither for Eurostar nor for other train companies.