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Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

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Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

Hi

I'm in the very early stages of planning a road trip next year - April/ May time. As we will have just come out of a british winter, will be looking for some warmth ..... Can cope ok with the heat. There's my other half and me - both 50 - well and able, like sight seeing, exploring cities, bars, shopping (well a big plus for me) - will have at least 2 weeks but if you have any good suggestions, will be happy to extend a little....

Here's my thinking so far......

Love Las Vegas.. So need a week...... Will be our third visit.

Grand Canyon - Over night but where do you suggest? Like mid range hotels, but open minded if you have any national treasures.

Sedona.... Scottsdale.... Santa Monica and fly back to the uk from San Diego..... Will 4/5 days be long enough?

The driving the main factor as don't really fancy more than really five hours in a car.... OH driving, not me!

Don't need any time in San Fran or LA as we did this as part of the golden triangle a couple of years ago.... We mainly did internal flights then.

Thanks for any help or suggestions...I understand its a bit flaky but I will ask more questions as I go along.

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1. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

For the Grand Canyon, as well as accommodation within the park itself there's also these towns:

Tusayan http://goo.gl/IddI99

Williams http://goo.gl/eaIx3v

and Flagstaff http://goo.gl/CyVSAU

Scottsdale to Santa Monica is about 400 miles. Somewhere on the south side of Joshua Tree National Park would make for a reasonably convenient overnight stop if you wanted to explore at least a bit of the park http://goo.gl/wZ1Jsg - or for somewhere quieter and less commercialised Twentynine Palms on the north side of the park would be a better choice http://goo.gl/TzCEu0

Joshua Tree NP video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKdIeBsvOqQ

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2. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

Definitely make a reservation inside Grand Canyon NP. www.grandcanyonlodges.com On the way to GC see Hoover Dam and explore some of R66. Suggest to stay for 2 nights. Then another 2 nights in Sedona. Leave GC by its east entrance and visit places like Cameron Trading Post, Wupatki, Sunset Crater and Walnut Canyon on the way. Take az89A into Sedona. Then last night in Palm Springs before returning to LA. Aerial tramway and Indian Gardens are recommended there.

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3. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

>>Will 4/5 days be long enough?<<

To get from Sedona to San Diego by the route you mention, or just time spent in San Diego environs?

The best place to stay in Grand Canyon, South Rim, if the budget can stretch would be El Tovar, in my view - but there are lots of other options. Not sure it's quite a national treasure, nor mid range in price terms, but if you stay elsewhere, cheaper at the rim, at least reserve a table there for dinner and ask for a window table, to get great views while you dine. Outside the park would be very secondary in my view, and you're early enough to get 2015 dates without too much probably, I'd expect.

April/May will be distinctly chilly at night at the Canyon, you could even still experience snow and ice - just a warning to keep a watch on road conditions and traffic report for driving in much of that area at that time of year.

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4. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

Thanks for some great suggestions...

The four days is soley for San Diego.... Is this enough time? Would like to get a real feel for the area, visit the zoo and sea world and of course the gas light area.

Seven days is allocated to Las Vegas so the remaining time is travelling and sightseeing ..... Quite like two day stops rather than overnight unless you think otherwise -.

Didn't realise that GC could be cold still in April / may.... Looking at pricing flights up as soon BA has a sale.... Likely we will fly from Gatwick/heathrow to Vegas and return from San Diego...

Is there any US holiday dates we should avoid.....?

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5. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

Grand Canyon will be highly variable in April and early May. The difference between Vegas and Grand canyon is elevation. its 5,000 feet higher at least which translates into colder temps.

If you have 5 days between Vegas and San Diego.....

1 AM drive to south tim...stay south rim

2 south rim..stay at south rim

3 south rim AM, drive toward San Diego in PM

4 drive to san Diego.

For an extra day you could do Sedona, Joshua tree National Park outside of Palm Springs, you could do a day in Palm springs area, or you could do old route 66 in Arizona for a day.

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6. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

www.visitsedona.com

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7. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

4 or 5 days should certainly be enough time to see most of what San Diego has to offer, and have some relaxing time. However, while it should be warm, as the Pacific is so cold, you might be able to relax on a beach, but swimming would be only for the really hardy.

There's no guarantee when the next BA sale would be, but they usually have one around the end of June. Every once in a while they also have unexpected 3 days ones. If you sign up on their website, or are a member of the BAEC, you should get notifications. As the return BA flight from SAN is to LHR, flying to LAS from LGW would only work if you don't park at the airport! It is though usually the cheaper flight. Know nothing about connections from either of the London airports to LBA or other airports nearer to home for you.

The only public US holiday would be Memorial day, a Monday at the very end of May. I haven't had need to look the date up for 2015 myself yet!

Sedona is great with lots to do there. Certainly a place to consider for a multi night stop, if you have time.

You mentioned driving via Santa Monica (seemingly for just 1 night) between GC and SD. The main snag with that, rather than other route options would be that you'd need to fight you way through the greater LA traffic to and from. Not knowing what your plans are for the single night, I'm not sure whether it would be worth the hassle.

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Edited: 30 April 2014, 17:33
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8. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

We spent more time in San Diego and loved it even without visiting places like the Zoo or Seaworld,. Have a high tea at Hotel Del Cornoda and visit Cabrillo NM.

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9. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

I do think El Tovar at the South Rim of the GCNP is a national treasure and worth pushing the budget for a night or two.

Yes, both the GCNP and Sedona can be cool in March/April, because are high elevations, but I also think there is a big difference between March 1 and April 30, a lot can happen in those 60 days. March 28 may not be a huge difference from April 2, but I think you get the idea.

Scottsdale is great in March, the end of April is when it starts to heat up. Lots of great hotels there.

When you nail down the itinerary on where you'd like to go, I'd visit those city forums (SD, Scottsdale, etc) for specific advice on hotels, sights and restaurants. The more information you can give (ages, likes, dates, price range, etc) the more helpful information you can get back.

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10. Re: Starting out from Vegas......finishing a in San Diego.

Right, think I may have now ruled out Santa Monica - which is a shame but the distance and traffic maybe too great to make it viable. First draft of planning then goes like this... Fly London gat/heathrow (whichever works out cheapest)

Into Las Vegas - for 1 week - pick up car hire and drive to GC south rim ...(good hotel suggestion! ) overnight

Then Sedona for two nights - Scottsdale three nights then finish in San Diego for the last four/five nights.

Just need to check out the driving distances between them all.....

Also just done a dummy booking with dates in early April - heck those prices are high! Until I realised its the Easter bank holidays in the uk. So, plans are to travel towards the end of April ....

BA flights haven't been released yet - we normally get emails of the sales but there's no loyalty if prices are cheaper with the us airlines.

Edited: 30 April 2014, 20:10