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science over emotion-swine flu

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science over emotion-swine flu

Please listen to and value the cautious asseessments of the scientists and give little regard to the slef-assured laymen. These scientists and experts are advising not to make non-essential travel decisions...keep that in mind when you here others beckoning you to come spend your time and money over here in sunny and 'swine-flu' free wonderland.

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1. Re: science over emotion-swine flu

Come on! Have you ever had a thunder storm in your area and the local TV stations go crazy? They dont want to be blamed for not making peole aware. Same thing here. Holy Moly this is getting way out of hand.

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just want people to value the true experts opinions, not a layman's 'take' on what makes sense.

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Yes. . . it's really best in this case to set aside all emotion and just get the facts we all need.

Most people like facts without emotion.

The posters here are great that list the facts in one or two sentences, add the links or sources, and done - - so it's easier to make the best decisions for one self.

Although one or two humorous posters here are so funny and enjoyable, and make me laugh, but in this case it is serious.

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dave4118,

You make a lot of sense! I over E (intellect over emotion). A formula I use when making important decisions.

Peace!

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200 deaths per day in the US in an AVERAGE flu season vs. a MAXIMUM current figure of 160 worldwide for swine flu...

As an expert in mathematics (yes, I can say that honestly), this is not yet a statistically relevant figure to make a decision. The socioeconomic figures coming from Mexico for those who have died do not make the statistics any stronger.

As WHO itself said, a global lockdown is not called for. Banning flights, etc, does not stop a disease which is already global.

People on this site skewer expert opinions just as badly as the talking heads, so make your own decision. Talk with your doctor, if you want a truly qualified opinion. Many are still saying "Cancun is as safe as staying home."

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Agree.

Emotion, so much fun, but it does tend to get in the way. A time and place for everything.

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Facts like only 7 confirmed dead, while fear mongers have been screaming about 150+?

abc.net.au/news/…2555794.htm

Kind of pales in comparison to the average of 200+ deaths from regular flu per day in the US alone, doesn't it?

THE SKY IS FALLING, WEAR A HELMET!

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Mikeintx, if all other factors remained constant, then your numbers would seem relevant. And the experts in this field have applied the numbers, and factors, and vector scenarios and have cautiously advised against non-essential travel to affected countries...sorry trying to unskewer your posting.

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Ok, let us assume that 200 people die a day during the regular flu season. How many a day get the flu? 1000? 2000? 20,000? 200,000? What is the more important fatality rate from flu during a given regular flu season? Just for some perspective...the Spanish flu of 1918 was estimated to have had a fatality rate of 2-3%. The totals were massive-- 50 million people died from that pandemic. This outbreak of swine flu has a current estimated fatality rate of 5-7%. A huge rate considering today's modern regimen of anti-viral medications. Is this fatality rate skewered by the fact that the vast majority of the deaths happened in somewhat less than modern Mexico? I think it is skewered for that very reason; but that means tourists would be placing themselves in the very country that has that less then modern health-care system.

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To all the math whizzes; exponentially.

1 person shakes hands with 10 people.Those 10 people shake hands with 100 other people.Those 100 people shake hands with 1,000 other people. Stict math; plain and simple. How does a virus spread; exponentially.

Peace!