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Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

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Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

We're still in the preliminary phases of our trip planning which will be in June or September 2014 and comments and suggestion would be very welcome!

Day 1: Arrive London

• Train to York

• Shambles (to get some fresh air)

Day 2: York, not necessarily in order

• York Minster

• Walk the Walls

• River Cruise

• Tea at Betty’s

Day 3: Yorkshire

• Pick up rental car

• Castle Howard (not sure how much time to allocated, but we were at Blenheim for about 3-4 hours)

• Rievalux Abbey

• Drive to B&B/Inn in or near Yorkshire Dales National Park

Day 4: Yorkshire

• Fountains Abbey

• Yorkshire Dales drive – Grassington -> Malham -> Ribblesdale -> Hawes - > Reeth

and back to B&

Day 5: North Yorkshire

• Whitby?

• Scarbrough?

Day 6: Drive to Llandudno in Wales

• Wander around Llandudno in the afternoon and do laundry 

Day 7-12: Wales

• Great Orme, Conwy and Castle, Llangollen, Pontcysyllte Aqueduct – this part of the trip is still in the planning phase

Day 13: Chester (and probably the afternoon of Day 12)

• Drop car in Chester

• Chester

Day 14: Train to London

• Check in and visit one of the markets (Covent, Borough, Ledenhall, etc.) depending on location of apartment.

Day 15-19: London (not in order yet)

• Greenwich Observatory

• V&A (always a favorite)

• Kensington Palace (for dress exhibit)

• Lunch in the crypt at St. Martins-in-the-Fields and lunchtime concert (another favorite)

• Parliament tour (if available, not planning around it)

• Hampton Court Palace



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1. Re: Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

While in York, we took a morning walking tour with one of the voluntary guides -


It was most interesting. Even though we had done some research before visiting, we did not quite realize the layers of history present in the city. Just a thought.

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3. Re: Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

Some people find that Fountains Abbey is their favourite day out and spend a whole day there especially if its good weather so your drive may possibly be postponed for day 5.

Helmsley near Rievauxl Abbey is a lovely small town with a market some days of the week. A lovely spot for a wander and a coffee. Nice antique shops and small galleries with works by local artists. Pretty walled garden on the edge of town if you like that sort of thing.

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4. Re: Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

Can I suggest a walking tour while in Chester also. There is a general walking tour every day of the year at 10.30, with extra ones in summer, from the Visitor Information Centre which will give an insight into the many layers of Chester's history too.

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5. Re: Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

This is offered only as a suggestion to look at as how worthwhile it would be would very much depend on the price/details, but one thing I'd consider looking at is the very first thing 'arrive London'.

The advantage of Heathrow is that you can fly there directly from Seattle (assuming your 'location' is your starting point). The disadvantage is that if you actually want to go to York on the first day you'll then have a trek on the underground to Kings Cross (which is a direct train but will take an hour or so), then a two hour train ride to York. The tickets to York will be most economically purchased as advance tickets which commit you to travel on a specific departure time and can't be transferred, but then you would have to allow a decent buffer to allow for any delays travelling or getting out of the airport. Buying the train tickets on the day or for flexible travel would cost a minimum of £96.80/person.

From an arrival point of view, if you want to go to York then Manchester would be a much better place to arrive. There is a station right at the airport from where trains run direct to York in under two hours. Train tickets can be bought (again as advance fares) from under ten pounds but the fare on the day in this case would only be £32.10. Disadvantage not being able to fly direct from Seattle, but there are direct flights from Vancouver or connections via Chicago, New York, Washington, etc.

Or, if you arrived at Manchester, you could go to Chester first and reverse the out of London part of your itinerary.

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6. Re: Tentative Itinerary - still in planning phase

Yes, we'll be leaving from Seattle. I agree that Manchester would be better than London as an arrival point, but at least in preliminary checking all of our options for connecting increases our travel times significantly due to layover durations. We haven't booked anything yet, so I will certainly keep Manchester in mind when checking on flights. Thanks for the great suggestion!

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