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First Time - London 6/19 to 6/21 - A Few Questions

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First Time - London 6/19 to 6/21 - A Few Questions

Good Morning,

We are coming to london for almost 2 days after 5 days in Ireland. I have appreciated reading all the great feedback on this forum but I have a couple of questions. We arrive into Stansted 6/19 at 1245 and return back to the US from LGW at 1000 on 6/21.

1. We are arriving to Stansted on 6/19 at 1245 and are trying to decide between train and bus The bus only seems 20 minutes longer and for decidedly less $. Any thoughts on this?

2. If we took the train instead of the bus, could we take advantage of the 2 for 1's that we see on the Nat. Rail site? Bear in mind that we are not planning on any serious siteseeing until the next day 6/20.

3. Should we get a travelcard instead of hop on hop off to use for our day around on 6/20 and could we use the travelcard to get to Gatwick on 6/21?

4. We would like to see Wizard of Oz on 6/20 at 1930 any recommendations on ticket discounts or we could use the 2 for 1 if we are eligible.

Thank You all Very Much. Can't wait to visit this vibrant city.

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1. Re: First Time - London 6/19 to 6/21 - A Few Questions

You won't be jet lagged, so you could also go to the theatre on the 1st evening. Or better still, an evening pub walk with London Walks www.walks.com

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I can only answer part of 3. The HOHO bus was useful for travel but we used a combination of the that and the tube for the day were in London. There are plenty of stops, easily marked based on the route you choose. I just wouldnt use it as a sole source of travel.

The Tube/Underground is really easy to figure out; I didn't really look at anything before we got to London and it was a sinch.

The difference for me was the tour guide. We didnt get off at every stop but having someone giving information and entertaining, along with the views (if you can find a seat on top) was worth the price of admission. You dont see anything underground............

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Hoping to figure out the best way to travel and how the 2 for 1 might work with tha

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4. Re: First Time - London 6/19 to 6/21 - A Few Questions

Where are you staying in central London? Knowing that will help sort out how best to travel from STN to your destination.

Travelcards cannot be used for the journey from London to Gatwick, as the airport is beyond the TfL zones. You'll need to buy rail tickets for that trip; again, knowing your start point can help us sort out the fare and nearest station for the journey from city to airport.

One day paper Travelcards bought at a rail ticket office will allow you to use the two for one offers. Using a Travelcard instead of the hop on hop off buses will allow you to travel at your own speed and see what you would like; you may also use a combination of the Underground and London's red buses to travel from sight to sight.

Let us know where you're staying as that will help sort out better answers to your questions.

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I thought I put in enough info and forgot our hotel. We are staying at the Gallery Hotel

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1. The A9 has its first stop at Stratford, and it's probably quickest for you to alight here, and then continue by tube. Time difference compared with the train to Liverpool Street is minimal given the £15 cost difference.

2/3 To use 241s you can buy a national rail ticket at Stratford station, which you don't have to travel. E.g., Queenstown Road to Vauxhall, £1.90. If you wanted to travel by tube from Stratford and use the ticket for that purpose as well as a 241 on the 19th, you can buy a £4.30 single instead. More expensive, but it's actually useful. Depending on where you are staying, a travelcard, zone 1-2 for the next day, should be purchased at Stratford also.

This would be one option:

19th at Stratford, buy pay as you go Oyster card with £10 credit, buy single ticket for next day @ £1.90 to utilise 241

20th buy HOHO ticket use it for travel, combine with Oyster PAYG as needed.

21st refund Oyster card before leaving for Gatwick

If you are not going to use the HOHO bus, then buying a travelcard, z1-2 for the 20th, bought on the 19th, becomes more attractive. This would cost £7, whereas the Oyster PAYG journeys are £2 each, add to that the £1.90 single and it would work out cheaper after 3 tube journeys.

3. A travelcard won't get you to Gatwick, it would get you a small discount off the ticket, but it will be cheaper just to buy a single ticket.

Edited: 02 June 2012, 01:30
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7. Re: First Time - London 6/19 to 6/21 - A Few Questions

1. The A9 has its first stop at Stratford, and it's probably quickest for you to alight here, and then continue by tube. Time difference compared with the train to Liverpool Street is minimal given the £15 cost difference.

2/3 To use 241s you can buy a national rail ticket at Stratford station, which you don't have to travel. E.g., Queenstown Road to Vauxhall, £1.90. If you wanted to travel by tube from Stratford and use the ticket for that purpose as well as a 241 on the 19th, you can buy a £4.30 single instead. More expensive, but it's actually useful. A travelcard, zone 1-2 for the next day, could be purchased at Stratford also.

This would be one option:

19th at Stratford, buy pay as you go Oyster card with £10 credit, buy single ticket for next day @ £1.90 to utilise 241

20th buy HOHO ticket use it for travel, combine with Oyster PAYG as needed.

21st refund Oyster card before leaving for Gatwick

If you are not going to use the HOHO bus, then buying a travelcard, z1-2 for the 20th, bought on the 19th, becomes more attractive. This would cost £7, whereas the Oyster PAYG journeys are £2 each, add to that the £1.90 single and it would work out cheaper after 3 tube journeys.

3. A travelcard won't get you to Gatwick, it would get you a small discount off the ticket, but it will be cheaper just to buy a single ticket.

Edited: 02 June 2012, 01:31
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If you've booked at the Gallery Hotel near South Kensington station, then take the Terravision coach from STN to Liverpool Street station.

Buy one day Travelcards for zones 1 and 2 (£7 each) at the National Rail ticket office there, opposite platforms 9 and 10: nationalrail.co.uk/stations/sjp/LST/plan.html Use the new cards for the journey on the Circle line (in the direction of Tower Hill) for the trip to South Ken station. You should be able to buy one day off peak cards for the next day as well, ask nicely and it shouldn't be a problem.

It's a slightly longer journey on this route than to take the Central line to Holborn and change to the Piccadilly line there, but there are three reasons why I suggest this: first, there are about a dozen steps from the concourse to the Underground ticket hall, then just two steps to the eastbound Circle line platform but more stairs needed to the Central line platform. Second is that there are about 20 steps up, a bit of a hike on the flat and a long escalator ride at Holborn for the change to the Piccadilly line. Third is that the walk from the Piccadilly line platforms to the ticket hall and way out at South Ken is longer with stairs plus escalator; the walk from the Circle line platforms is much shorter with fewer stairs.

The Underground journey from Liverpool Street station to South Ken will take about 30 minutes. When you leave the station walk along Harrington Road to Queensberry Place and turn right; it shouldn't take more than five minutes to walk from the station.

A number of buses call at South Ken station, handy alternates to the Underground although traffic in Brompton Road can be a bear at peak hours. tfl.gov.uk/tfl/…southkensington-2236.pdf

Treat yourselves to a taxi on the morning of departure, as you'll need to be at Victoria station early for the train to Gatwick. There are Southern departures at 0621 and 0647, arriving at LGW at 0705 and 0719. Single fare is £13.50 per person; Anytime tickets will allow you to choose either of those departures. You may buy tickets the day before travel or you could buy them at Liverpool Street station when you buy paper Travelcards: ask for the Southern service to Gatwick rather than the GEX.

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If you go via Stratford, which is possible on either National Express or Terravision, then you would take the central line westbound, and change for the District Line at Mile End. The change at Mile End is very simple as you would just exit the central line train, then board the district line train on the adjacent platform.

For the ticket to Gatwick from Victoria, the cost can be reduced to £10.20: to do this you would buy two tickets, London Victoria to East Croydon (£5.30), and East Croydon to Gatwick Airport (£4.90). It's best to buy your tickets a day in advance at a rail station that you pass by while sightseeing to save time on the morning. All trains from Victoria to Gatwick (except the expensive Gatwick Express service) pass through East Croydon, there is no requirement to get off the train there to use this split ticket.

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