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Arriving 9/7 - Questions

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Arriving 9/7 - Questions

My husband and I will arrive at Terminal 3 LHR at 7:45 on 9/7 and depart LHR at 10:30 on 9/14 staying at the London Marriott Grosvenor Square. As we arrived at Gatwick last trip we are not familiar with the trip to/from LHR. We are planning on taking the tube to Green Park. Should we get off and walk from there or change to the Jubilee line to Bond St.? How difficult is the transfer - I just remember long walks between lines at some stations. Should we just retrace our route for the return? I am thinking we need to arrive at LHR by 8:00. Is that doable on a Saturday? We will have a couple backpack-style carry-ons and a larger rolling suitcase.

We are thinking using just PAYG Oyster or a 7 day travelcard zone 1-2 loaded with extra PAYG for the LHR trips and a trip to Hampton Court Palace. Not sure the 2-4-1 offers interest us much as only HCP and perhaps Churchill War Rooms are in the plans. If we just did PAYG would it make sense to buy a I day paper travelcard for the 2-4-1 at HCP? Also thinking of day trips to Oxford and/or someplace like Dover Castle. DH has specifically requested a castle trip and we have done Tower of London and Windsor - ideas for other castles (not ruins) that are easy day trips using public transportation?

Any suggestions for decent pubs near the Marriott? We plan to stay awake our first day and visit Portobello Market as we did on our first day last trip. Will want an early dinner in a casual setting. We also have reservations at the Wolseley on Monday for dinner - coq au vin is the plat du jour. Good or something better?

Thanks for all your help. I promise not to ask about tipping.

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1. Re: Arriving 9/7 - Questions

> I promise not to ask about tipping.

But something else that doesn't port across the pond is date format. Brits read "9/7" as the 9th of July. Gimmie a dollar now for the heads-up. ;-)

Your Oyster plan seems sound and you can buy a return rail ticket to HCP for the 2for1 deal.

What does your husband hope to get out of a visit to a castle? HCP is sort of like a castle - it's old and amazing.

Sorry, I can't help with anything else. Ahem, not that I've helped much with anything at all.

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Green Park is step free so you can get a lift between platforms.

I would go to Bond Street, it's not worth trying to walk through London with a case.

Warwick Castle is a bit more commercialised but very easy to get to. Just take the Chiltern Railways train from London Marylebone to Warwick and there are signs to the castle.

Oxford is easy by train, just take the FGW service from Paddington to Oxford.

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My bad about the date format.. My DH's business partner is from Milan and we are always getting confused when he writes dates - we are never quite sure what he means as he tends to go back and forth. Thanks for the suggestions. Keep them coming! BTW my paternal grandmother was born in Manchester so I feel like I have a bit of a connection - she introduced me to tea with milk, scones and blood pudding.

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I generally find it easier when dealing internationally to use month abbreviations (e.g. 9 Jul) for that very reason. Anyway, I'm not having a go at you.

Is blood pudding what we know as black pudding? Ambrosia! BTW, the Scottish stuff is better than the English.

Have you considered venturing up to Manchester? Great city.

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Pretty sure there's no lift between platforms at Green Park. There is step free exit from Green Park - escalator to ticket hall, lift to the south side of Piccadilly. If you don't fancy a 15 or so minute walk with luggage, hop in a black cab.

Can't help with Oyster vs paper travelcards except to say that for the small hassle of getting to a rail station you have a choice whether you use the 241's or not for the same transport options.

As for castles, lots of genuine ones are ruined or semi-ruined. Rochester is one that is reasonably intact and has an interesting story. Leeds castle (in Kent), Hever, Dover and Warwick, commercialised but very good are also worth a look.

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Oxford actually has a castle. It's not a ruin because it was being used as a prison up until 1996 (but it is seriously old. Over 1000 in parts, plus newer bits). I have written a review of it. It is called Oxford Unlocked.

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@Jdbri " the Scottish stuffs better than the English". You have obviously never tasted a genuine Bury black pudding which OPs Gran coming from Manchester most certainly would have.

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I would say Rochester would qualify as ruined, although we did really enjoy our day trip there. Much of Rochester did have a roof, IIRC. Why don't you want ruins? Cardiff Castle is part ruins and part intact. I think it's about 2 hours by train. Dover has some ruins and some not, but it does make a good day trip, particularly if you're interested in WWII. My first thought when you said not ruins was Warwick, although I'll admit I haven't been there yet (my daughter thinks it might be too touristy).

I'd recommend a 7 day travelcard either on Oyster or paper (if you want the 2 for 1 offers). I tried PAYG for the first time on my trip this summer and spent more than I would have with a travelcard. Here's a link to the trip report where I posted the details of what I spent (post 32). It should also give some idea of how much I traveled by public transport.

tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g186338-i17-k66879…

I usually use the month abbreviations when posting on a forum with people from multiple countries, as either way you write the date will look wrong to someone if you're using numbers.

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Some great pubs within a 10 minute walk over the other side of Oxford street in marylebone, some of my favourites are...

The gun

The coach and horses

The prince regent.

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10. Re: Arriving 9/7 - Questions

I can help with the pubs. Our local when we stay at the Grosvenor Square Marriott is The Audley at 41 Mount Street. It's just a couple of blocks away on the corner of Mount Street & South Audley. You get the after work suits crowd here but i you time it right it's pretty good.

The Marlborough Head is at 24 North Audley. This one always seems very busy with the Oxford Street crowd.

The Barley Mow is right next to the Marriott at 82 Duke Street. We used to go there often but not in the last several trips; not sure why. I guess we enjoy the other Mayfair pubs more. We've never eaten at the Barley Mow.

The Running Footman is at 5 Charles Street

This trip in Sept we plan to check out the Iron Duke at 11 Avery Row & The Rose & the Crown on Old Park Lane.

Although not a pub, there is a Prezzo located on North Audley Street, almost across from the Marlborough Head. For a chain Italian restaurant the food isn't bad & the prices are decent.