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Law-Compliant rental agencies

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With all the posts re compliance with Paris short-term rental regulation, the queston arises as to how a non-French speaking renter can assure they are not being placed at risk. Is anyone aware of which (if any) rental agencies stipulate that all of their properties are in compliance?

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the problem is that the definitions of the law are currently being debated...therefore what's "in compliance" today may or may not be what's "in compliance" if and as they ever figure out exactly what they're doing with the law.

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Plus the responsibility of the compliance, from a legal point of view, falls on the *owner*, not the agency. Obviously, any serious agency should ensure that all flats in their portfolio have been transformed to business-licenced ones by the owners, but I suspect many turn a blind eye; I have not seen anything in the current legislation suggesting any kind of fine for the agencies should they be found offering illegal short term rentals, the responsibility falling ultimately on the owners themselves.

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Law is very clear, an apartment can be rented out legally, for short-term stays, if it's registered as a commercial property.

I am not aware of any agencies that strictly adhere to this law.

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and I'm going to seriously doubt that the city is going to evict you and dump you on the curb, even if they prosecute the owner/agency....they'll fine the relevant party, but the city of Paris has a savvy enough marketing department to clearly comprehend the bad press that dumping tourists out of their apartments will create.

The city of Paris is a lot of things, but stupid where it concerns tourist dollars isn't one of them.

Edited: 09 November 2012, 16:29
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What about those - like *I think* Parisbestlodge - which own a small portfolio of properties? I would expect those to be legit? I guess it then comes down to knowing - with people like Parisbestlodge and Rentalfrance, for example, whether they actually own the apartments they let out - ? Any way of finding this out?

Whereas with, for example, Vacationinparis, which offer a large number of properties which they do not own, you can not know whether they have vettted every owner -?

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The problem for a renter isn't really the unlikely 'dumped on the kerb' scenario. It will be more likely that the problem will arise, possibly at short notice, when the owner who has taken the booking then has to cancel if/when the law catches up with him.

I would guess it's also a problem for the foreign owners who bought a holiday home in Paris in the expectation that some of their costs would be covered by higher short term rental charges.

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This link was provided by AnnetteCinCA recently

http://www.aplm-france.fr/membres.html

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Diz is very right here: I would be very wary of booking a short term rental say, 6 months from now, in the current context, unless I can get formal proof from the agency that the desired flat's owner does have both the registration and the business operating permit.

Considering the roller coaster love affair that the Greens (who are the ones moving heavily on all real estate matters) have with the Socialists right now at the Government level, all bets are really off as to where this topic will go in the next few months. That plus the fact that this is also a Paris-city-hall level thing, and that municipal elections are now about 16 months away. The current mayor shall not run for office, but the lead Socialist candidate should be his First Deputy, who happens to be in charge of urbanism and architecture, and IMO should keep the current stand of "giving back Paris to Parisians" (less cars, more social housing).

(Again, don't read any political message here: this is purely descriptive)

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"tourist dollars" spent on a clandestine rental, with cash payment going to someone living abroad :)

Well, no one said people were likely to be "evicted" but, just that as with any illegal activity, one is not protected so there are risks involved. Not only can an owner cancel at last minute (if fined and forced to adhere to law) but deposits may not be refunded, I would think.

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let's see...the water bill is paid in France, the gas bill is paid in France, the electric bill is paid in France, the arrival and departure taxes are paid in France, the taxi/RER/bus/shuttle charges are paid in France, all the admission fees are paid in France, the groceries are are bought in France, the meals out (because there will be some) will be paid in France, souvenirs, teeshirts, Metro and RER...all money that ends up in France's pocket (and the resulting taxes) because somebody came to Paris and rented a flat....just like with a hotel.

...and oh, yes -- the taxes on the property (arrondissement, city, departmental, regional, and State) are paid inFrance, as is the mortgage (in most, but not all, cases), as are the fees for cleaning services, maintenance and repairs, ordinary things like new sheets and towels and light bulbs and brooms, and many of the booking agency fees.

yes, a lot of tourist dollars generated by rental flats stay in France.

Edited: 09 November 2012, 17:38