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Trip Advice two weeks, mainly in Germany

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Trip Advice two weeks, mainly in Germany

Very excited, I get to spend two weeks, mainly in Germany this fall. Any thoughts people can provide.

We leave09/23-10/07

We arrive in Paris on 09/24, two nights then we have the whole day until around 21:00 or so and board an overnight train to Berlin! (looks like the earliest I can book this is 92 days out)

Berlin we get in the morning 09/27, have two nights there, then same as paris, the whole day until a CNL train to Munich. Right now we have reservations at a Crown Plaza near the Zoological garden, haven't stayed there but I haven't found a good place in Mitte or surrounding (my nights in paris and Berlin I have to stay at hotels through Delta Vacation, it got me an amazing rate on our flights, just under $900 per person round trip).

I will post this part on the Berlin Forum, but I am hoping Hertha Berlin will be in town when we are there to catch a match, I know fixtures don't come out until August or so, but my question is, any tips on getting tickets for them? I have used Viagogo for Dortmund in the past, but I am thinking I can get tix's directly through the team, not quite the demand...yet! :)

Over night train to Munich Two nights in Munich...I planned this to go through Munich. We booked a room at the Smart Stay Hotel Station, we paid $300 per night, doesn't look like a great hotel, but it is in the right location, walking distance to Marienplatz and just a few stops from the "Wiesen", any tips? Can I score some Trachten (traditional clothing) any where near where I am staying?

After our nights in Munich I will pick up a car, (thinking through Auto Europe, used them in the past) picking up a car near the station, then we are heading to Salzburg for the night. (09/30-10/2)

We stay one night there, then heading south towards the Bavarian Alps to drive the AlpenStrasse, then we are going to base out of Mittenwald, staying at Haus Schweigart for four nights, seeing the Bavarian sights, hiking etc. before heading back to Munich on 10/07 to fly home, we have an afternoon flight out.

Any thoughts or if you know the routes and places any feed back would be great!

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1. Re: Trip Advice two weeks, mainly in Germany

Hi,

sounds exciting. Only few comments: night trains use to be quite expensive, it might be cheaper just to buy a low-cost-flight - especially to Berlin there are several cheap flights available. Nighttrains are not everybody's cup of tea due to the motions and the noise. Also the quality standard has significantly dropped within the last years. Why not a day - train, it won't take you any longer than 8 hours Paris - BER, or 6 hours BER - MUC.

In Munich the Octoberfest is a must. If you are in a group, you need to reserve a table about 4-5 months in advance. One bigger shop to buy Bavarian - like clothes would be "Loden Frey", just take into consideration that these are not cheap. At the time of the year you might find "Loden" (which is not really traditional, but traditional - like) in any bigger shopping mall.

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For your car maybe check out www.gemut.com, they seem to be highly rated and although they work with autoeurope they appear to avoid some of the latters less reputable suppliers ie Buchbinder,Thrifty/Dollat/Terstappen.

I have not stayed in the Crowne Plaza but know the area well as I use the nearby sister hotel(Intercontinental) you are on a busy street so maybe ask for a room at the back. It is near the Memorial church and Zoo as well as the KaDeWe store. The Zoo station is nearby as are bus routes 100 & 200 which will get you across town in 10/15 mins. If the weather is good then there is a lakeside biergarten in the Tiergarten(about 10 mins walk from hotel)

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First thanks for everyone's thoughts, some good items to consider, Holger, the thought is, I do think they are fairly expensive, that being said, if you get them right at 92 days, I have found saver fares, that drastically reduce the cost. I just had taken an overnight train from Prague to Amsterdam, my wife and I loved it. When we woke up, we were in another city, hitting the ground running, plus it saved us travel time, travel while we slept, then woke up in a whole new country/city in some cases. But I would say, it depends on the person. The people two compartments from us, didn't seem to thrilled with the experience (but I think that had huge bags).

Holger, I have 4 in our group, any tips on getting a reservation, does it make any sense for us to do that with a group of 4? Also thanks for the trip on Trachten, For my Football club (Soccer in the USA) I wear lederhosen to the matches, though right now mine are pleather, so I am going to invest in some of the real deal. It is fun.

bongoblog, thanks for the tip on the car rental, I will check that one out. Also with the hotel, I have stayed farther west from the Crowne Plaza, but you had to catch the train every time you wanted to go somewhere, looks like there are at least a few things close by. Do you know if the Memorial Church restoration is done, I was last in Berlin, two years ago and it was covered, would love for my wife, and the crew we are with to be able to see that. (btw-absolutely loved, love that Biergarten in the Tiergarten.

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I think most of the scaffolding is down now,sadly the church is being surroundedand dwarfed by high buildings.

You could try a walk across the Tiergarten, takes maybe 25 mins from your hotel to Potsdammerplatz area, along Tiergartenstrasse. You get the park on the left and the embassies on the right, varying from ultramod to the '30s built Italian andJapanese buildings.

as for the sleeper trains,they don't suit me as I don't sleep,I see the atractions if you can sleep though, as for cost it saves on a hotel for the night.

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For Hertha: The stadium normally is normally only sold out when the opponent is Bayern München, and maybe nowadays Borussia Dortmund. You can normally buy tickets just one day in before at some ticket stores(f.i at EuropaCenter near Zoologicla Garden) or dierctly in the ticket containers before the match.

The stadium capacity is 74244. During the last first round of the season 2013/2104 the match which attractec most visitors was against Schalke which was almost sold out:

fupa.net/teams/…zuschauer.html

It is very probable that you will be able to get tickets. in case you don't get tickets, may I kindly point to the local rival FC Union Berlin. Since the stadium is much more compact and stand directly next to pitch there is a great atmosphere. Make clear to be inside before match-time so you can enjoy the club's hymn.

Union Berlin is recently ranked quiet high in the 2nd league. If they manage to go to the first league it might become very difficult to get tickets(stadium for only 21800 people).

If one of the two teams plays against teams like Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim, Mainz, Fürth, Augsburg, Sandhausen, Paderborn, Aalen, FSV Frankfurt, Ingolstadt or Freiburg it will be very easy to get tickets for the away sector since these teams don't have many away supporters and can't fill the whole away sector.

One more hint for your trip: 3rd October is national holdiay in Germany. Shops will be closed and many people will traveling since it is sometimes the last mild/warm weekend of the year.

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The scaffolding(boxing) was down when I was there last month. Like Bongoblog I also dislike the way the memorial Church is being hemmed in and dwarfed by the new buildings.

My son has travelled by CNL to and from Berlin a couple of times because the fare was much lower than other trains with afternoon/evening departures (travel cost only, in his case, a hotel didn't come into the equation either way). But he can sleep pretty well anywhere and I think that factor is crucial

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Thanks for the advise on Union Berlin, yes if Hertha happens to be out of town, hopefully that would be a second option.

Where is their Stadium? I bet it is a great atmosphere.

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For the reservations just try the different tents,.e.g.:

ochsenbraterei.de/en/… (you can see the ox on the spit, incl. name, origin and weight)

fischer-vroni.de/x/index.php/fischer_vroni_r… (specialised on fish)

www.festzelt.schottenhamel.de/en/beding.htm (this is where they open the Wies'n)

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Not every tent will accept reservations for groups of 4, then you just come on a first come first serve base.

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