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Travel from Basel

My flatmate and I are flying into Basel, arriving on Saturday at around 11.30am. We fly out again on the Monday at 6.30pm. We want to spend our time in the Black Forest area and would like to know:

1. Is it easy to catch a train to Black Forest area. We are looking at area around Titisee and Triberg.

2. Can we get a train from the airport?

3. Is it necessary to book in advance?

4. I gather, once we are in the area, a KONUS card from our accommodation will cover bus/train in the Black Forest.

5. Would this cover the return trip to Basel?

6. For seeing both Felberg and the waterfalls at Triberg, would we be best be based at Triberg or Titisee. We would also like to do the steam train ride from Triberg as well.

Any advice greatly appreciated

P

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1. Re: Travel from Basel

1. + 2.

Basel Airport (BSL) is not served by trains. And you'll have to change en route. But there are pretty frequent connections.

DB timetable

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en

Start: BSL

e.g. to

Destination: Titisee-Neustadt Titisee

Best deal for the part from the train stations Basel SBB or Basel Bad Bf to the Black Forest is a Baden-Württemberg Ticket (BWT). EUR 29 for 2-5 persons traveling together. Only regional trains. And in Baden-Württemberg (but not in Basel) also nearly all other local public transport as well. Select at the DB timetable as means of transport "only local transport" if you want to use a BWT.

3. You can neither book the buses from the airport nor the regional trains at all.

4. Yes.

http://www.blackforest-tourism.com/konus

map of the KONUS area

http://tinyurl.com/yzgdyde

5. KONUS card is good (like the BWT) to travel on regional trains to Basel Bad Bf or Basel SBB stations in Basel. The trams and buses in Basel are not covered.

The bus from the airport to Basel SBB is to my knowledge CHF 3,80. You can pay however also with Euro.

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2. Re: Travel from Basel

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There are hourly buses from Titisee station to the Feldberg. Using the DB timetable

Destination: Feldbergerhof (1250m), Feldberg (Schwarzwald)

Titisee and Triberg are however 2 hours by train from each other.

Triberg has just bought a steam loco - but only to serve as a monument. There are only from time to time steam trains on the Black Forest Railway. You mean probably the steam museum railways Wutachtalbahn (aka Pigtail Railway)

stadt-blumberg.de/ceasy/…

Runs between Blumberg-Zollhaus and Weizen. You can query with the DB timetable to get to/from these stations - the steam train itself is not known by the DB timetable

timetable September 2011

sauschwaenzlebahn.de/ceasy/…

There are basically 2 options to get from Donaueschingen to Blumberg-Zollhaus. A direct Rufbus (RFB) - a mini bus which runs only on request (you have to call the number shown under details by the DB timetable). Thus bus is inside the KONUS area but may require a small surcharge - or not. Than the is the train route from Donaueschingen to Blumberg-Zollhause via Immendingen. This route is outside the KONUS area.

The optimal base for all 3 locations would be Donaueschingen. Not as deep in the Black Forest as Titisee or Triberg. But the town has other plus points. And is less touristic.

http://www.donaueschingen.de/

Sadly the incredible cute cinema in Donaueschingen closed a few years ago. It was worth going there alone for the cinema - not the film. The building has now be (re-)transformed into a museum.

museum-biedermann.de/english/…index.html

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3. Re: Travel from Basel

As Donaueschingen is not in the Black Forest but just on the edge of it to the east, is the KONUS card still given?

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4. Re: Travel from Basel

It is.

http://www.donaueschingen.de/

UK flag -> Tourism -> Bus and rail free of charge

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5. Re: Travel from Basel

Thanks for all this information. I think with the time alooted, we may not be able to fit it all in. Donaueschingen is a 3 1/2 hour train journey from Basel on it's own. Without a car, it's not falling into place. We may ahve to rethink itinery

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6. Re: Travel from Basel

The best access from Basel would be by train to Zell and onwards by bus up to Feldberg and Titisee. Triberg, Donaueschingen etc. are not convenient but also less spectacular than the area around Feldberg and upper Wiesental.

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7. Re: Travel from Basel

Nobody is mentioning the shuttle bus between Basel airport and Freiburg main bus/ train station , it is operating from the french side. freiburger-reisedienst.de/en/…timetable.php

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8. Re: Travel from Basel

I really have no idea about the route from Basel to the Black Forest, but can we make a half day return trip?

If so, which train do we take and can we use our Eurail pass?

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9. Re: Travel from Basel

You can travel from Basel (located at an altitude of 260 m) to Zell im Wiesental (427 m) by train (~ 50 m). While there are no signs "here starts the Black Forest" Zell im Wiesental belongs undoubtedly to it. The Black Forest is however 150 km long.

zeller-bergland.de/content/…Panorama.jpg

www.suedwaerts.com/cms/index.php…

http://www.naturpark-suedschwarzwald.de/en

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From Zell im Wiesental you can proceed by bus to the Feldberg - the highest peak of the Black Forest. Bus stop is Feldberger Hof (1.250 m). From there you can take during Summer season (May - October) a cable car up to the Seebuck peak.

http://www.feldbergsteig.de/

You can also use hiking paths up or follow the non-public road (Franz-Klamayer-Weg). Please note that the complete Feldberg Steig hike (red route) needs 4-4,5 hours and is classified as difficult.

http://www.blackforesthighlands.info/

Feldberg is as a half day trip from Basel a bit on the short side.

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DB timetable

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en

Start: Basel SBB

Start: Basel Bad Bf

Destination: Zell(Wiesental)

Destination: Feldbergerhof (1250m), Feldberg (Schwarzwald)

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> If so, which train do we take and can we use our Eurail pass?

As far as you use the trains your Eurail pass is valid (if it covers Switzerland and Germany). The buses are however not covered.

You can get closer to the Feldberg from the other side (seen from Basel). From Freiburg via the Hell Valley Railway and the 3-Lakes Railway

…wikipedia.org/wiki/…29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreiseenbahn

Nice is a round trip (Basel - Zell im Wiesental - Feldberg - Titisee - Freiburg - Basel). But this puts you way beyond the half day trip range.

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Instead of your Eurail Pass you can use a Baden-Württemberg Ticket. EUR 29 for 2-5 persons traveling together. Covers the regional trains in the German federal state Baden-Württemberg and also to/from Basel SBB. And also nearly all other means of local public transport. E.g. the buses Zell im Wiesental - Feldberg - Titisee. This day ticket is valid

Mo-Fr: from 9am till 3am next day

Sa,Su: from midnight till 3am next day

To be on the safe side select at the DB timetable as means of transport "only local transport" if you want to use this ticket. Albeit inside the Black Forest you have anyway only regional trains.

Edited: 06 November 2011, 13:53
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10. Re: Travel from Basel

Wow. That wa exr\tensive. Thanks Abalada,

We really just have one free morning before we leave for Milan at 13:00. If we get to Zell will we be able to see beautiful scenery already or do we have to proceed to Feldberg for the wonderful views? ( we are going on December 27). Will this route take more than 4 hrs?

Or if we take the Freiburg Hell Valley(?) railway, will it take longer? and can we use our Eurail pass?(we have a 4 country pass, including Switzerland and Germany.)

Edited: 06 November 2011, 16:01