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Stuttgart as a base for baden- Wurttemberg

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Stuttgart as a base for baden- Wurttemberg

hello everyone,

would like to find out your views on using Stuttgart as a base to visit some smaller towns around the area, is it feasible? If yes, which are the smalle townships we should go?Triberg? Schwäbische Alb?

We might be there in Nov, and trying to see if we can fit baden-wyrttemberg in in our short trip to Germany.

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1. Re: Stuttgart as a base for baden- Wurttemberg

Stuttgart ( www.stuttgart-tourist.de ) makes an excellent base for seeing Baden-Wuerttemberg ( www.baden-wuerttemberg.de ; www.tourismus-bw.de ; and www.schloesser-magazin.de/en for the excellent castles, palaces, monasteries and gardens operated by this German state) as it is by far the largest city, centrally located, and has good rail connections. For getting around by train, have a look at www.bahn.com , a map of the Baden-Wuerttemberg train system is at bahn.de/regional/view/mdb/pv/deutschlanderle… , and for traveling by car use www.viamichelin.com for good estimated driving times and suggested routes.

Triberg in the Black Forest ( www.schwarzwald-tourismus.info ) would be far more convenient to visit by car, and the Swabian Alb ( www.schwaebischealb.de ), our favorite part of Germany, is another nearby mountain range with lots of castles, caves and excellent cliffside scenery. This is also best visited by car, as there is little public transportation across the steep front of this tilted plateau.

Perhaps you were thinking of Schwaebisch Gmuend ( www.schwaebischgmuend.de ) or Schwaebisch Hall ( www.schwaebischhall.de ) which are both nearby nice towns with medieval parts?

Besides the big city sights in Stuttgart such as the excellent Mercedes Benz and Porsche Museums (after all it is where the automobile was invented and still commercialized) some excellent nearby places to visit include:

Esslingen ( www.esslingen.de ), 15 minutes away by S-bahn, with its well-preserved medieval oldtown center;

Ludwigsburg ( wwww.ludwigsburg.de ), again 15 minutes away by S-bahn, which has Germany's largest perfectly preserved palace (in www.schloesser-magazin.de/en ), called for obvious reasons the "Swabian Versailles", with several days' worth of excellent things to see including the longest and best palace tours that I've had in Europe;

any town at the end of the six S-bahn lines (one exception, Filderstadt) is worth a visit of a few hours, places such Weil der Stadt birthplace of the astronomer/mathematician Keppler, Marbach of the poet Schiller, and Schorndorf of the automobile inventor Daimler. All have museums dedicated to their favorite sons.

Moving a little further away from Stuttgart where a car or train is needed:

Tuebingen ( www.tuebingen.de ), our favorite German town, just quintessential Germany, with its hilly cobblestone streets, half-timbered houses, castle, interesting nontourist shops, one of Europe's oldest universities, and the nextdoor delightful well-preserved medieval Bebenhausen Monastery (in www.schloesser-magazin.de/en );

the lovely mountain valley spa town of Bad Urach ( www.badurach.de )

Metzingen ( www.metzingen.de ) which has Germany's most factory outlets for some inexpensive shopping;

Besigheim ( www.besigheim.de only in German) which was recently voted Germany's most picturesque wine place;

two fairytale-like castles, Burg Hohenzollern ( www.burg-hohenzollern.com ) by Hechingen, and Schloss Lichtenstein ( www.schloss-lichtenstein.de ) east of Reutlingen. The first is inconvenient to reach by public transportation, and the last impossible.

That's more than enough to last your short time, and I hardly mentioned the many places in Stuttgart to visit, besides many more excellent nearby places. There is no real need to travel to the ends of Baden-Wuerttemberg when so many excellent places are so close nearby, but it can be done.

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2. Re: Stuttgart as a base for baden- Wurttemberg

I see that I got carried away with the w's for the website for Ludwigsburg which should be www.ludwigsburg.de .

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3. Re: Stuttgart as a base for baden- Wurttemberg

WOW!! Thank you marcipolko for the very detailed and well linked reply!! I will look at the various websites you shared to work out a feasible schedule.. hmm perhaps it was Tuebingen rather than Triberg I was thinking about, for i vaguely remember reading about it being a medieval town and all... But i do wish we can see the Swabian Alb, but alas we do not plan to drive at all.. i like trains you see, especially one that chugs through forests and woodlands :) Esslingen and Ludwigsburg sounds like places we will love...and yes the castles... thank you once again and we try to see as much as we can.. too bad time is too short...

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Ah, trains, if it wasn't November you'd have better luck. First, in Stuttgart is the streetcar museum (Stuttgart was the German city with the first streetcars) which has the local transportation as it developed from streetcars through trams to the present Strassenbahn (U-bahn). It has recently moved to the Bad Cannstatt part of Stuttgart, but I believe they have a once a week trip on Saturday or Sunday in one of the older U-bahns about the streets of Stuttgart following mainly the scenic U-15 line. Here is one old page on it- europeforvisitors.com/germany/stuttgart/stut… and here is a more informative website unfortunately only in German so use your computer browser's translation facility- http://www.shb-ev.info/web/index.php . Also, the tourist information office's website should have further information.

There are at least 19 museum trains and historical railroads in Baden-Wuerttemberg, many of which may use steam. Summer would be best for them, but perhaps a few will be running, and probably more in December coupled with Christmas Markets such as the two steam routes they had last year from Stuttgart to the Christmas markets in Bad Wimpfen and Garmisch-Partenkirchen.

Here are the towns with them and the appropriate websites which will probably be only in German:

Haltingen-Kandern- www.kandertalbahn.de

Zollhaus-Blumberg-Weizen- www.stadt-blumberg.de and www.sauschwaenzlebahn.de

Horb-Freudenstadt-Schiltach- www.eisenbahnfreude-zollernbahn.de (probably is actually www.eisenbahnfreunde-zollernbahn.de )

Warthausen-Ochsenhausen- www.oechsle-bahn.de

Amstetten-Gerstetten- www.amstetten.de and www.uef-dampf.de

Amstetten-Oppingen- www.amstetten.de and www.uef-dampf.de

Plochingen-Kirchheim/Teck-Dettingen/Teck- www.eisenbahnfreunde-zollernbahn.de (see comment about Horb as to website spelling)

Gammertingen-Münsingen- www.eisenbahnfreunde-zollernbahn.de

Tübingen-Eyach-Hechingen- www.eisenbahnfreunde-zollernbahn.de

Ettlingen-Bad Herrenalb- www.uef-dampf.de and www.kvv.de

Achern-Ottenhöfen- www.achtertaeler-eisenbahnverein.de

Breisach-Endingen a.K.-Riegel a.K.- www.rebenbummler.de

Nürtingen-Neuffen- www.ges-ev.de

Schorndorf-Rudersberg- www.dbk-historische-bahn.de

Korntal Weissach- www.ges-ev.de

Hornberg-St. Georgen- www.triberg.de

Trossinger Eisenbahn (Trossingen)- www.trossinger-eisenbahn.de

Bahnhof Durlesbach (Bad Waldsee)- www.bad-waldsee.de

Härtsfeldbahn Neresheim (Neresheim)- www.hmb-ev.de

There is also a railway museum in the Romantic Road town of Nördlingen which can be reached with a Metropolticket from Stuttgart, which is a day ticket, for 25€ for two people.

If you are here from 28November to 23Dec the large Stuttgart Christmas Market has a cute train ride for small children that uses a real steam engine. Also, the world's largest pumpkin exhibition is in Ludwigsburg at the palace gardens from 31Aug to 4Nov. If you're here, well worth visiting coupled with a palace tour for an excellent day. Over 400,000 pumpkins are on display of over 450 types, there are large themed sculptures made from them- this year's theme being the sights of Switzerland, and food and drink (champagne) made from them. www.blueba.de only in German.

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5. Re: Stuttgart as a base for baden- Wurttemberg

I'm off with the price of the Metropolticket which covers approximately half of Baden-Wuerttemberg centered on Stuttgart ( http://www.metropolticket.de/ only in German), it should be 22.50€, the other price is for the Baden-Wuerttemberg day train ticket which covers all of Baden-Württemberg and a few other places beyond its borders. Otherwise, both tickets have the same restrictions, no travel before 9AM on weekdays, and no long distance IC, EC and ICE trains can be used. They are both valid for buses, trams, U-bahns, S-bahns and regional trains in their area of validity within B-W, and just the regional trains to places outside the borders of B-W. Use of the Metropolticket also may give discounts to some tourist attractions.

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