Well, that's the way Bavarian public transportation is laid out - centered on the state's capital. Strange, isn't it?
>That is too much time waster for me. Is there another way? Like a bus or direct train that I do not know about?
what does www.bahn.de say on that matter?Edited: 17 February 2010, 18:35
DB timetable suggests automatically the fastest route. And there are few things the DB timetable does not know about (has e.g. even the boats on lake Chiemsee).
The route (west-east) from Garmisch to Salzburg through the Alps and pre-Alps is full of valleys in north-south direction. That's why the railroads there are all run also in north-south directions (most as branch lines).
railroad map Bavaria
Also a route planer for a car will suggest basically the same route, i.e. first northbound and than at the foot of the pre-Alps the route Holzkirchen - Rosenheim - Salzburg.
Would driving (rental car from Germany) from Garmisch to Salzburg be better than going Garmisch-Munich-Salzburg by train? There seems to be no option but go via Munich to Salzburg. Any suggestion/advise?
If we drive rental car from Germany into Austria as tourists, is there any other requirement that we need to have as drivers/on the car?
If you just want to get from Garmisch-Partenkirchen to Salzburg a car won't pay for. Travel time on the fastest route is 2 hours. The autobahn A8 is also the main route from Germany to Austria and beyond. Which means that traffic jams during the vacation time are not unlikely.
If you return in Austria you have to calculate with a steep international drop off fee. You could return in Freilassing (just across the border) or Berchtesgaden. From both towns you have trains and buses to Salzburg.
For the Austrian autobahns you need a vignette (toll sticker). It is not impossible to avoid the Austrian autobahns as Salzburg is just across the border. But you land easier on one as you may think. And the Austrian police is strict on such things. As on an the International Drivers Permit which is required. Buying a vignette or avoiding the autobahns in Austria needs also time. As getting and returning the rental car.
Thus you won't be in the end that much faster than by train. 3 h 38 min with regional trains. Hourly connections. And using them you can use the Bayern Ticket. EUR 28,00 for 2-5 persons. Less than the fuel will cost you alone from Garmisch-Partenkirchen to Salzburg.
Thank you for your reply.
We were planning to use trains for our below itinerary but then I understood from internet that the public transport between Neuschwanstein (i.e. Fussen) to Obermmagau via Linderhof Castle is not that simple if we have say only 2 days between the both castles-viewing and also staying 1 night Obermmagau. Therefore, we decided to rent a car from Munich.
Our plan is:
Day 1 Drive rental car from Munich to Fussen.1200 hrs-visit Neuschwanst. C.
Day 2 Drive Fussen to Linderhof C. - view - then stay night in Obermmagau.
Day 3 Drive Obermmagau to Garmisch-P, to take cog wheel/cable to Zugspitez summit. Be back at Garmisch-P at around 1300 hrs.
Drop off rental car in Garmisch-P ? and take train Garmisch-P to Salzburg departing Garmisch at 1400 hrs.
Now, if we know for sure that the above points (Fussen-Linderhoff-Oberamaggau) could be done very well on public transport then we would not like to take rental car at all.
But, I'm finding it a bit difficult to plan these 3 days using public transport.
Any suggestion/advice is welcome please.
Day 1 and Day 3 are easy by public transport. Between Füssen/Hohenschwangau and Oberammergau there are few connections, as both areas belong to different regions, i.e. on which level the buses are coordinated. At a few connections you have to even change buses at "Echelsbacher Brücke" (Echelsbach Bridge - not on the bridge itself of course, but a bus stop next to it) which marks the border between both regions.
map bus network Füssen area
map buses and trains in the Werdenfelser Land (Oberammergau, Garmisch)
To: Hohenschwangau (the bus stop for Neuschwanstein)
To: Linderhof Schoss
To: Zugspitze Bf Zugspitzblatt (the end station of the cogwheel train)
To: Eibsee Zugspitzbahn (the valley station of the cable car)
and select as means of transport "only local transport"
I'm considering flipping the itinerary over i.e.
Munich-Salzburg by train. stay 2 nights Salzburg. Visit Eagles Nest/Kongisee lake tour on either a Sunday or a Monday. Is the nest open on a Sunday or Monday?
Day 3 Salzburg-Obermaggau morning - by public transport (bus) - it takes 4 hours... hows the journey as such? i.e. would we be able to go visit the Linderhoff Castle that same afternoon. Then stay night either in Obermaggau or Garmisch-P. Does it look doable?
Day 4 Obermaggau-Garmisch-P to Zugspits next morning 8.30ish. Return back to Garmisch station by 1 PM to pick up bag from hotel and train to Fussen 3 hours journey 1437/1753 hrs.
Stay the night in Fussen.
Day 5 Fussen-Neuschwanstein morning & other castle next to it. Return to accommodation, pick up bag & go to Fussen station to catch train to Munich Fussen/Munich 1605/1807.
Would the 4 hours Salzburg/Oberamaggau & 3 hours Oberamaggau/Fussen journies on consecutive days + sightseeing mountain and all - be rattling or is it easily doable? We are restricted to 5 days only and really want to avoid driving.
Presume Neuschw, Linderhoff castles, zugspitez cog/cable & eagles nest are open daily as it seems so from the websites.
Thanks for all the websites on the trains/buses, its really very helpful.
Just a note to thank you for sending the DB Bahn websites and RVA OVG schedules. This truly helped us in our recent trip to Germany. We covered Munich/Salzburg/Garmisch-P (including Zugspitez/Oberammagau) and Fussen with both the castles in 8 days.
Thanks to the precise information sent by you, we thoroughly enjoyed our holiday on our own in these beautiful places using the excellent and highly punctual dependable public transport.
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