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Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

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Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

Our college-student daughter will be in Berlin for the summer on an internship. She will be renting an apartment for 3 months with 2 others. Looking at listings, it seems most in their price range are in Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzberg. I see Prenzl described as "trendy" and K-Berg as "multi-culti". Those both seem like they would interest college students, but are there any safety or other issues with either neighborhood? Anyplace specific they should avoid?

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1. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

Generally, both districts are safe, but each borough of Berlin is the size of a medium-sized city and there are good, bad and indifferent residential areas, pockets of industrial and commercial activity and a few iffy areas in each one. Your daughter should choose on the basis of proximity to wherever she's doing the internship or at least good access to public transportation. Tip: the area around Kastanienallee/Zionskirchplatz is a GREAT part of Prenzlauer Berg/Mitte. Anywhere around Bergmannstrasse is the better part of Kreuzberg. The "happening area" keeps changing, but last time I looked it was around the Arena where Kreuzberg meets Neukölln and the streets in back like Muskauer, Cuvry, and Wrangelstrasse.

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2. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

Thank you! That is very helpful. They will be cataloging buildings all over, so mainly need to be near an S-Bahn or U-Bahn stop.

The most promising two places are in Prenzlauer Bergomn Erich Weinert Str., one one in Kreuzberg near the Five Elephants Coffee Cafe--I will have to go find the street name.

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3. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

PB is much more beautiful.

Keep in mind that multi-culti means many immigrants from Turkey and North-Africa, which is not necessarily negative but you must be comfortable with it. PB has more yuppies and cosmopolitan parents. (Notting Hill of Berlin)

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4. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

Adding to what bill2p says, that there are good and not so good areas in both districts, you or your daughter might like to run any apartments that are being seriously considered under the nose of this forum, for a specific thumbs up or down.

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5. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

Thank you! She is coming home for spring break tonight, so we will look at the apartments and I will post her top 2 or 3 choices for vetting here.

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6. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

<<PB is much more beautiful.>>

Not necessarily. For example the area around Chamissoplatz is much more beautiful than anything in Prenzl Berg in my opinion. And Viktoriapark in the summer, and Paul-Lincke-Ufer.

Both boroughs are large, diverse districts and can't be characterized so simply.

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7. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

>...the area around Chamissoplatz is much more beautiful than anything in Prenzl Berg in my opinion. And Viktoriapark in the summer, and Paul-Lincke-Ufer.<

And Planufer! That quiet stretch along the canal with some of the most beautiful apartment buildings in the city.

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9. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

OK, another question. she found one she likes in Prenzl, emailed the agency, and got back a response which included the information that they charge a "finders fee", which includes both their commission and the 19% MESt (VAT). The amount is figured on a sliding scale, of 30% of the monthly rent for a 1-month rental, 48% for a 2-month rental, and 66% for a 3-month rental. So on an aparement which rents for 1200 euros a month, this fee will amount to an extra 792 euros righ tup front.

Is this normal practice? Should they avoid agencies and go with owner-direct websites like Air BnB instead?

Thanks for your help!

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10. Re: Neighborhood for long stay---Prenzlauer Berg or Kreuzerg?

Not necessarily. Does the apartment sound like good value? If it is, does it matter how the fees are arrived at?

Offhand it sounds a reasonable amount for a good apartment for a month, but it's hard to tell without more information. If you can provide a link to the apartment we may be able to give an opinion based on location, size, square meterage, number of rooms, etc.