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Sickness again...Sorry

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Sickness again...Sorry

I have been following the posts about the sickness in a certain area of Tenerife and thought you'd like to know that a flight from Tenerife to Cork (southern Ireland ) was met by ambulances because 15 people were sick. Now its reported it was a turbelent flight but most were actually poorly beforehand.The doctor who treated them said its most likely the winter vomiting bug.

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41. Re: Sickness again...Sorry

Just read oceans and health: Pathogens in the Marine Environment - From the Department of Soil, Water and Environmental Science, University of Arizona

"It has been well established that human pathogen viruses may be transmitted through the marine environment due t the release of sewage by polluted rivers, outfalls, or release from vessels. These wastes contain human enteric viruses, which if ingested, or in some cases INHALED, can cause a wide variety of illnesses. Their ability to be infectious long enough in the marine environment to come in contact with a susceptible

host.....Transmission route may be fairly direct, such as ingested or contaminated seawater or more complex by prolonged survival in sediments which are later resuspended and accumulated in shellfish

during feeding.........

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Sorry not made this sentence clear enough: Their ability to be transmitted by this route is because of their capability to remain infectious long enough in the marine environment to come in contact with a susceptible host.

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Sorry but ....SO MANY SPECIALISTS ,all wanting to be correct ....if i was not sick before i am now !!

How come all these Specialists are not working?

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I find it absolutely amazing that people are coming on this forum questioning the practices of our local authorities, while others totally ignore requests for the information they are supposedly quoting but are happy to spout from American data provided by just one person in 2005 see link springerlink.com/content/g064683248353tt3/

I have been reading the NHS website which is up to date and makes interesting reading especially as the first page opens up with a large banner saying “Help keep Norovirus to a minimum Norovirus, the winter diarrhoea and vomiting virus, is contagious and can spread very easily – especially in hospitals.”

It goes on to tell us that “ The incubation period is 24-72 hours. This is the time between catching the virus and developing symptoms”.

So all those people who have told us that they caught the bug between 24 and 48 hours after arriving COULD have actually been infected BEFORE starting their holiday.

It continues with “People remain highly infectious from the moment they begin feeling ill to at least 3 days after recovery and may still excrete virus for 2 weeks after the illness. This makes transmission very difficult to control. This means that even if a person has had norovirus in the past they may still get re-infected”.

And those who say various members of their party have had it could very easily be passing on the bug to each other.

The websites explains in everyday language :

How can you catch norovirus? Norovirus can spread very easily from one person to another and only a very small amount of the virus is needed to cause infection. It may be caught:

• Being exposed to virus in the vomit or diarrhoea of an infected person eg. when cleaning up.

• Not washing hands after using the toilet.

• Touching surfaces (such as toilet seats, bed rails, furniture) that have virus on them

• By breathing in virus that remains in the air for some time after projectile vomiting.

How is norovirus prevented in hospital?

Good hand washing with soap and water is the key to preventing norovirus from spreading. Alcohol hand gel does not kill norovirus.

Isolating patients with the virus (how many holiday-makers continue to mix with others??)

Cleaning. Enhanced cleaning using bleach-containing products is needed to eradicate norovirus from the environment.

So time after time it keeps coming back to the onus being on those who have the bug and personal hygiene. If this bug is Norovirus/Novovirus have a look at this video

http://tinyurl.com/y9rre5o

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I think this link just might explain it all ....The experience of Heston Blumenthal's at the "Fat Duck" Restaurant ....

…ksu.edu/blog/138559/09/03/17/fat-duck-staff…

Those badly infected hotels ( and there are only a few ...not the whole of Tenerife ) need to have a closer inspection ....

I have written to the Authorities because I am concerned about this beautiful part of the island and I want to return ...why don't you all do the same instead of writing here on TA ..I think we all have got the message now so direct your thoughts and frustrations to the authorities .....

here is the address again ....

sac@santiagodelteides,es

Sylla

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In total agreement AGUILAS and SYLLA ,this was once a forum about holidays where to go what to do ,and how much ,now its more like going to hospital ,there are so mant threads on this now i dont know if its a conspiracy by other countries trying to put off tourists going to Tenerife .Please can posters read the other threads rather than posting new ones its getting so repetative . I am sick and its only from keeping up with this bug issue ,Ho well soon be spring so like other countries the winter bug will die off .

Brings into question should i ever go out of my own home !!!!

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I don't want to dismiss peoples concerns Oneleg ....they are genuinely worried ( I was , but had confidence in the Hotel Playa la Arena) so continued with my holiday and all was well !

I agree too many threads now ...and we are not getting anywhere ...we all know the situation now in Los Gigantes ...and the reviews keep coming ...that's why I suggested getting in touch with the authorities .....

Sylla

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48. Re: Sickness again...Sorry

Topic closed ,thank goodness .THE END !!!!!

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49. Re: Sickness again...Sorry

I think Secret Tenerife says it all - Quote

I’ve gone right into Victor Meldrew overdrive in the last few days. Exclamations of ‘Oh for God’s sake’ have been coming thick and fast…except that’s the censored version.

The first topic which has left me exasperated is the discussions about an outbreak of norovirus in the south west of Tenerife on Tripadvisor. This is a subject that won’t go away at the moment and there are at least ten threads about it.

I fully understand visitors’ concerns about this. Every November I have concerns about picking up a bug when I go to watch Man Utd in a bar full of people snuffling and coughing with cold and flu germs transported from Northern Europe.

And there lies the irony about the norovirus. Nobody can say where it came from, but there are a couple of factors which sort of point a finger. The first is that it seems to be specifically affecting areas where there is a high British visitor count. The second is that two friends who are nurses in the UK mentioned in passing that wards in their hospitals in completely different parts of the country had been shut down because of the same virus. Oh, and add to this that the Canarian population who don’t come into contact with visitors don’t seem to have experienced the virus and the evidence mounts.

If anyone decides not to come to Tenerife because of norovirus it’s a bit like Columbus and his men saying ‘we ain’t going back to the Americas – they’re full of sick Indians’.

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50. Re: Sickness again...Sorry

TOPIC CLOSED .....ooooh nelly you always want the last word!!!!!!