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Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

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Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

Interesting article in The New York Times, with reference to a proposed law and the types of tourists the city is attracting.

"These tourists, he said, go for “cheap alcohol, partying, hanging out in the street, and not spending money.”

Here's the link: http://tiny.cc/owmp1

I wonder where these tourists eat & sleep if they're not spending any money in Barcelona?

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1. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

I go for cheap alcohol as well, well i do when i'm in a bar but always ensure i go to local bars so it doesn't go to chains.

And i spend as little on my accommodation as possible. Means i get more holidays a year.

Can understand wanting to get rid of the stag / hen parties who are a pain in any city as a rule.

And Placa George Orwell, hasn't that been known as Placa Del Trippy for years because of soft drugs?

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2. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

Is this the same New York Times as apparently carried an extended report last Sunday to the effect that "Bobbie and Joanie no longer see eye to eye" ?

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3. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

I'm sort of unclear about the message this article is trying to put across. Tourists all over the world (well much of it) enjoy a drink or two and in many areas the drink is cheaper than at home - although I certainly don't think drink in Barcelona is that cheap. However, I do hope to share a glass or two with Jon (and many others) at the wine festival in September, where the alcohol really is cheap and were few of 'that type' of tourists go.

Hanging out on the street? It's a city! When I think of Barcelona, it's the street that I think of. I've visited many museums and galleries and will again, but the joy of the city for me is the city itself.

Partying? I tend to think the word has a slightly distorted meaning in the UK and I do most of my 'partying' behind closed doors. But surely it's another thing that people want to do on holiday.

I don't like stag-dos in Barcelona (or Brit stag-dos anywhere 'abroad') when I've seen them, but they don't often impinge - and I've a feeling they tend to gravitate to the more expensive bars anyway. Some of them spend loads. Hypocritically, I've noticed lots of stag/hen nights on a couple of nights out in Jon's beloved Liverpool last year and they seem much more appropriate. Perhaps we're worse out of the UK because there's less chance of us being spotted by somebodies mum :)

I'm sure there are huge differences in the budgets of people who use this forum but most of them spend their hard earned money and none of us need the superior comments of adventure holiday specialists, who presumably prefers his clients to have a miserable time.

I checked his website, just out of interest and apart from a rather patronising comment "The menu is in a strange language spoken only by the inhabitants of the region." which I think is a reference to Catalan, I was struck by this entry "Summertime is the main festival season in the area. The Festa Major is one of the main festivals and is celebrated in each town and village in the area. The festival is a good excuse for a great deal of drinking, music and food.". Far be it from me to hint at something a little hypocritical there, or is the booze and partying alright for his clients, as they're spending quite a lot, but not for people on a tighter budget?

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4. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

Was there some mention of someone's mums? :-P

Pandachris, I think the only person who is obviously miserable is the operator himself, since his potential customers are all off, drinking cheap liquor, hanging out and partying...

Without him. :-P

BTW, his outfit was mentioned once this year on the forum. I think Riffsmom and I had some chuckles over it.

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5. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

Kokopeli did take a little finding on Google, Gigis_mum and most of the original hits I got were in the US, but I got there in the end.

The tours actually look pretty good and the TA member who went with them seemed well pleased, but why the NYT decided to interview Guy and not one of the more established and, dare I say, more Spanish tour operators is a mystery. couldn't help chuckle at the two apparently differing attitudes to alcohol, though. Perhaps he was quoted a little out of context.

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6. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

obvioulsy living in barcelona i prefer rich tourists, this way everytime i wear my pickpocket suit i get more profit, but it is funny see how those who now want rich tourist are the ones who have won milions with low budget tourist.

by the way, cheap drink doesn't mean go to a bar, it means buy tons of beer at supermarket and drink it on the street or at your rented apartment, it means use the street as a toilet (TA correction XD ), it means noise, etc

they have sold spain as a "all is allowed" place, SOL, PAELLA and TOROS .. now we get it :)

finally, hope no offense anyone, but young british are the worse, they doesn't respect anything. just look at Saloufest .. 5k drunked british in Salou this week. do they the same in the UK?

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7. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

I doubt that much offense will be taken, slatkin, although I certainly don't see it as a purely British phenomenon, but we do seem particularly good at producing offensive drunks and then exporting them to foreign climes. The most offensive and unpleasant thing I saw at last year's Merce was caused by a group of young, male, non-English speaking tourists - but it could easily have been Brits doing the same thing.

Do they do the same in the UK? Well our media would have you believe that 'binge-drink Britain' is an island filled with towns that are no-go areas for 'decent people' at nights because of hordes of young (and not so young) people making life a misery with violence, vomiting and all round loutish behaviour.

The reality is, of course, somewhat different. Alcohol is probably relatively cheaper than it's ever been and some people drink a lot on a Friday or Saturday night but the ordinary citizen is no more at risk from the consequences than he/she would be in Barcelona. I've been out at night in a lot of UK towns in recent years and apart from having my own middle-class prejudices frequently re-inforced, I really don't think that it's the equivalent of Thunderdome or some similar post-apocalyptic, dog-eat-dog nightmare. Just people having what they think is a good time and generally looking a bit of a rowdy mess.

Interestingly, on our revered BBC Radio 4 there were several articles a couple of years ago about a big under-age drinking problem in Spain, with 12 and 14 year old girls interviewed. I got the impression that they were mainly smart enough to avoid drawing too much attention to themselves, though.

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8. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

Pull out the stopper...

Let's have a whopper...

But just get me to the church on time...

~Lucky

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9. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

Often alongside the talk of binge-toursim ("de borrachera") there's a disparaging reference in the press here (BCN) to people who travel on budget airlines too as if they (or rather "we·) are all like the worst of the stag-groups. It's pretty ironic because the way things have gone in recent years the ONLY way to fly between many destinations in Europe by direct flight is with a budget airline and obvuiously some of the passengers will be high-spenders in fact, there'll be "all sorts".

A while back we flew a Spanish Liverpool FC footballer on Easyjet and David Cameron and wife last week also flew Easyjet London-Granada. The Queen of Spain has even flown to London with Ryanair!

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10. Re: Barcelona-"Afraid of the Kinds of Tourists it is Attracting"

"young tourists to sit, drink themselves drunk and make noise through the night." in Plaça George Orwell

Aren't these more likely to have been local youths having botellones?