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el escorial and...restaurants!

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el escorial and...restaurants!

hi.

we will be in madrid for 3 nights at the end of july and for a night in the middle of august.since it is an exciting city and we feel that there are lots to see in madrid(reina sophia museum, el prado, retiro park, archeological museum,plaza mayor, shopping in salamanca dinstrict and in el corte ingles,)and since my wife is pregnant and we don't want to be very tired we suppose that one day trip off madrid is enough.what about el escorial?what are the most relaxed ways to get there except organized tours?

also we like when we are on holidays to have dinner on good gourmet style restaurants.what are the thoughts of the following list:

hyatt hotel outdoor restaurant, casino de madrid, terazza restaurant in melia fenix hotel, ritz outdoor restaurant, el jardin de miguel angel restaurant.any comments most welcomed.

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1. Re: el escorial and...restaurants!

Daytrips: I think that Toledo is too hilly for a pregnant woman, my suggestion is Segovia. There is a non-stop bus from Paseo de la Florida, 11 (metro stop: Principe Pio). Info on Segovia:

www.turismodesegovia.com/default.asp?ban=1

About gourmet restaurants in Madrid, I'd choose, among your list, "Ritz outdoor restaurant" for atmosphere.

My suggested restaurants are:

* EL Amparo at calle Puigcerdá, 8

* Viridiana at calle Juan de Mena, 12

* Combarro (for seafood) at calle Reina Mercedes, 12

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It is a very steep hill up from the station to el escorial - there is a bus which leaves from the station or get a taxi - I can't recommend the walk - I did it a couple of months back pushing my wife in a wheelchair (not please that I'm drawing any comparisons) and it is a long way and very steep. However, worth the effort. If you do make it, Hotel Miranda & Suizo at Calle Floridablanca 20 houses a very good restaurant with a fixed price menu which was extremely welcome

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hi.

we will think about segovia.what is there to do?

i'm sorry to read about your wife in a weel chair.out of medical concern (i'm a medical doctor) what's her problem?if i'm not to rude to ask...

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Segovia is an excellent choice because even though there is an incline I don't think it would be a problem for most pregnant woman. If you wanted to take a taxi ride, it would be rather short and not very expensive.

What to see in Segovia?

1. a knock-your-socks off 2000 year old Roman aquaduct. Greeks must be more blaze about that, but it is very impressive...no mortar used to keep this structure standing and functional into the last years of the 20th century.

2. a castle....fairy-tale shot from a park below, but you would probably have to taxi to get that view. The view from the front and the trip inside is impressive enough.

3. a cathedral...

To eat? Roast suckling pig or roast lamb are the specialities. Of course, you have very good lamb in Greece.

Another good thing about Segovia is that you feel that you have seen the city without raising around in a day or half/day.

I am rarely a gourmet eater myself, but if you are interested in the fine points of gourmet food in Madrid or Segovia, consult Maribel's Guide (www.maribelsguides.com) click on Madrid. I believe she discusses traveling to Segovia as well.

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As I recall, you are staying at the Westin. Maribel talks about restaurants nearby on pages 35-37 in her guide. She gives a very extensive critique of the top restaurants in Madrid...Of the ones you list I believe only the Ritz is critiqued by her, but you can read yourself. Not necessary to register, pay...but if you do decide to download the PDF file it's more than 70 pages. Put enough paper in your printer!:)

Segovia piece is on page 17. She doesn't discuss restaurants. Basically she says take the bus and gives details.

BTW, if your wife should need wheelchair at such places as the Prado, it is available without prior reservation.at no charge. (We used it for my husband who was having knee problem...very accomodating, etc.)

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Hello Telis (or rather Dr T:)

I recently wrote a very long 2 part trip & food report on Fodos.

While none of the restaurants were "gourmet" (with the exception of Codex Calixtinus in Canicosa) Perhaps it will interest you. Just search under Pedraza and also Yantar.

You might consider the restaurant Narizotas in Segovia as a lunch option. To save you the trouble here is an excert that details Narizotas:

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Segovia: Restaurante Narizotas

Plaza de Medina Del Campo #1

We really enjoyed this interesting & less traditional retaurant in Segovia. ...The name itself "Narizotas" "big nose or big nozes" is quirky too. I don't know the story but someone has a sense of humor. The guy with the big schnoz is on the sign & business cards.

We had a nice menu del dia here. The resturant was lighter, more colorful and modern than the more traditional places. Decorated with original artwork it had a patio, upstairs and downstairs area, the feeling was younger, and more fun.

Tuesday's lunch was again a menu del dia 18E each for the two courses, plus a bottle of very good red wine and desert. The food reflected lighter more modern choices. The fish we selected was bacalao, but not the salty dish of my childhood made by my grandmother (which I actually like) This was also very good.

It was just right and we needed the change the day after our cochinillo fest. The bread here was especially good here. (Some of you are monitoring the extra cost of bread and olives etc in Spain. We found they are always included in menu del dia)

The included desert was a combination of crepes with a creme inside topped with chocolate sauce.

Dh had another sorbete de limon. Fresh & delicious ....

A mature and knowlegable waiter served us, very attentive staff in general.

Our total bill for 2 people = E 34,13.

I would recommend for a change of pace or for something other than the traditional.

The website www.narizotas.net did not work, not sure why. In any case a good option for a different meal in Segovia.

ams

A mature and knowlegable waiter served us, very attentive staff in general.

Our total bill for 2 people = E 34,13.

I would recommend for a change of pace or for something other than the traditional.

The website www.narizotas.net did not work, not sure why. In any case a good option for a different meal in Segovia.

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I don't mean to be difficult here, but I don't know why one would go to the mountains (Segovia) to eat cod. I know in this day of rapid transit and the best hygenic practices, it shouldn't matter, but...I would order what the region is famous for and closest to the source. Just my opinion. I will admit I do order shrimp, scallops in Wisconsin which is very far from the source, but I expect such dishes to be a lot better where they are fresher near a coast of their source.

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hi..

thank you all. you have been very informative.

yes, we will be staying at the westinpalace.we are thinking of booking a private tour for el escorial or segovia just for the two of us.fortunatelly the pregnancy of my wife is going very well and no need of weelchair at least at the moment is needed.she's also a doctor and up till now she handles very well all her patients with no problems at all.

any more information will be most welcomed.thanks for one more time.spain forums are really great!

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Oh yes Holajks I totaly agree. That was also my husband's concern

in Madrid as well. But we also had some great fish in Madrid.

As for Narizotas I would never have thought to have fish there.

They have a very diverse menu including the usual cochinillo etc. It just so happened a week of red meat, beef, veal, pork, and lamb we needed a break and took that risk. I must say we have wondered how they do it. But I agree the restaurant is very good for ther things however.

ams

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hi.

i'm sure maribel's guide is wonderful but unfortunatelly i'm facing many problems when visiting this site from my lap top making very hard to ''use'' this site.

So, i'm counting only to all of you which up to now you gave me great advises.