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Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

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Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

Travellers need to be aware that most long-distance Intercity (IC) trains which transit through Florence NO LONGER STOP at the main S.M. Novella Station, but rather at the outlying Rifredi or Campo di Marte Stations, which require a regionale train connection to reach S.M. Novella.

This also means that travellers needing to connect in Florence to other trains may face a similar need to connect to (or from) S.M. Novella Station.

For example, if you are taking the IC train from Venice to Florence to connect to Arezzo, Cortona, Perugia, Assisi, Spello or Foligno, you won't be connecting in Florence at all, but in Arezzo. If you want to get to Naples (or Chiusi or Orvieto) from Florence on the IC train, you'll have to take a regionale train to Rifredi Station to board the IC. And only two of the seven IC trains between Rome and Florence go into S.M. Novella Station (the other five stop only at Rifredi).

By contrast, if you're connecting from the IC train to a regionale train to Viareggio, Lucca, Montecatini, or Pistoia, you can connect at Prato Centrale. If you're going to Pisa, connect at Firenze Rifredi.

So, BEWARE when travelling on any IC train to, from or connecting in Florence. Check the Trenitalia schedules to verify whether your particular IC train goes into S.M. Novella Station. If you're connecting, determine your correct connection station.

The reason that most IC trains skip over S.M. Novella Station is to save time: to reach this station requires branching to a dead-end line, whereas the Rifredi/Campo di Marte stations are on the main through line going from north to south. Hence, IC trains originating in Milan or Venice (southbound) or in Naples or Rome (northbound) stop at Rifredi on the main line and not at S.M. Novella on the dead-end line.

Eurostar (ES) and AV trains continue to stop at S.M. Novella Station.

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1. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

Seems a lot of changes are taking place with the trains in this area. For more than a year, international night trains to Florence stopped at Campo di Marte, an inconvenient station in a remote part of town. I heard a rumour that night trains from Switzerland will be discontinued altogether when the new time table appears (12 Dec onwards) - and an early reservation on a night train was not only more convenient but cheaper than a fast day train. The Cisalpino company, a collaboration between Italy and Switzerland, will be dissolved at the end of this year. The rumour is that there will be no non-stop fast train service from Switzerland to Italy - everyone will have to change trains at Chiasso or maybe Milan because the respective national train companies will resume running these trains.

So, yes, study your timetables carefully. None of these changes are being made for the convenience of travellers. They being made to increase the prfits of the railways.

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2. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

I think it is many years since any railway system made a profit. It is perhaps more accurate to say that changes are being made to reduce the cost to the taxpayers of subsidising the railways.

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3. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

Yes indeed. And another observation: I believe that long-distance rail service in Europe is dying, being slowly replaced by ultra low-cost airlines whose fares are cheaper than those of the trains. In Italy, there are rumours that some long-distance IC and ICN trains will be reduced, including long-distance service to Sicily. Indeed, Trenitalia is putting most of its funds into high speed rail travel of five hours or less, plus short-distance commuter service. What is being sacrified are the long-distance IC and ICN trains. Already today, is is cheaper to fly from mainland Italy (Rome and above) to Sicily by booking ahead with a low-cost carrier than it is to take the train. Think of the situation of rail travel in the United States and Canada: how many people still train long distances?

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4. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

Thid is hardly a "new" situation..when those "pendolino" trains were running they also only stopped at Rifredi...some things, like fashion, seem to come back over and over again

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5. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

Thanks for this timely piece of information. I have just checked my ticket from Bologna and indeed we are being dropped at Rifredi.

How many trains an hour are there from Rifredi to S M Novella? What is the rough cost?

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6. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

One thing to check is whether your ticket is good for a free ride on the SMN - you might have to ask at your arrival station. I know that travellers arriving on an overnight train at Campo di Marte don't have to buy an additional ticket for the 10 min ride to SMN, despite Campo di Marte being specified as the destination. Frequency depends on time of day - there are many trains from suburban stations during the periods when people are getting to and from work.

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7. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

Tim - check on trenitalia.com

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8. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

True that the long-distance rail service to Sicily is in jeopardy and not turning a profit for Trenitalia!

Trenitalia Wants to Abandon Sicily!:

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9. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

The changes in the Florence area stations have probably to do with the overhaul of SMN station (due to be completed in 2012). Anyway, SMN will later be skipped by high speed trains altogether, with the opening of the new 'Belfiore' station, around 2014 -- see fosterandpartners.com/Projects/…Default.aspx

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10. Re: Intercity Trains no longer stop at S. Maria Novella Station

What would be the cost of a taxi to say Ponte Vecchio area by Taxi? Since their are three of us it might be a better option than getting another train to SMN.