We will arrive in Lucerne by train at midday 9th October. After dropping our bags at hotel (ibis budget) hopefully by 1pm we plan to boat to Vitznau, red cog train up, blue cog train down then train back to Lucerne. What time would it get dark and would we have much time to look around.
The next day we plan to go to Mt Titlas (we are up and going quite early) and arriving back in time to have a look around the city. We are buying swiss pass so will be using it as much as possible to see as much as we can. Our only other option is to switch the two mountain visits to the opposite days -can you do Mt Titlas from 1pm sufficiently.