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ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

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ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

The ATV summer bus schedules covering the eastern lake come into operation next Monday, 9th June and there are a few changes. There no longer appears to be a direct bus route between Verona and Riva del Garda. Bus No.184 travels between Garda and Riva, and bus No. 183 travels between Peschiera del Garda and Malcesine.

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If you are travelling from Verona airport there is an hourly bus no.164 directly to Garda and the south of the lake. Anyone who intended travelling to Riva del Garda by bus from Verona are now unfortunately going to have change their plans.

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Edited: 06 June 2014, 08:47
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1. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

The links above should open as PDF documents, if you have a problem, try this instead

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2. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

http://www.vldb.org/2013/162.pdf

Line 162 (or 62) still travels directly between the train station and Riva. I rode it 3 weeks ago and the schedule looks similar. The schedule said 162 but the bus said 62.

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3. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

<<I rode it 3 weeks ago and the schedule looks similar. >>

Hi Hedorick, yes three weeks ago you would have been able to go directly to Riva. The new timetables came into effect yesterday, June 9th, and to get to Riva you now have to change en route as shown in the links given by Tepore. We are presuming there must be some logic to the changes but we haven't seen it yet!

Incidentally the link you gave shows the timetable from 10th June to 11th September last year, 2013.

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4. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

I am so glad I found this thread, my daughter is flying into Verona and staying in Garda. Taxi fares are too expensive so the 164 bus is the perfect solution. Thanks Guys. There was a time when Ryanair used to fly to Brescia airport which was so much nearer to the south of the lake.

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5. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

Hi, Glad you found this information useful. Verona is actually much closer to the eastern side of the Lake than Brescia and the new bus service makes it so much easier and quicker.

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6. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

We used to go to Sirmione and it was always so difficult getting there using public transport from Brescia (had to go via Desenzano or Peschiera) always ended up taking a taxi wich was expensive so this is indeed good news especially as we are thinking of going to Garda again.

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7. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

The bus from the airport only goes to Peschiera del Garda, Pacengo, Lazise, Cisano, Bardolino and Garda, it doesn't go any further north nor does it go to Sirmione.

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8. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

'We are presuming there must be some logic to the changes but we haven't seen it yet'..........

This has probably been done in an attempt to keep the timetable punctual as the 62 / 64 often ran late during the summer months due to traffic hold ups along the lake, which from my past experience multiplied the further the bus traveled, having a knock on effect for the return bus start times out of Riva or Verona. Catching the last bus out of Bardolino to Riva was always a lottery as far as arrival time in Bardolino was concerned and left travelers wondering if they had missed the bus as it was so late sometimes.

Therefore, splitting the whole journey into two halves should enable each route to reduce the possibility of timetable delays due to traffic.

I'm going back to Torbole in 4 weeks (August 2014) and will have the opportunity to find out if the new routes are an improvement or not.

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9. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

Thats a possibility but delays are generally due to the high volume of traffic on the lake road which unfortunately is not going to change. It will be interesting to see if things improve.

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10. Re: ATV new bus schedule - No direct bus between Verona and Riva

Unfortunately, the changes may not make the buses more punctual. It looks as if the 184 and the 164 will be working together to provide a bus route to Riva from Verona - if one is delayed then the other will be delayed waiting for it to arrive.

From the timetable, the 164 from Verona arrives in Garda at 15 minutes past the hour, and the 184 from Garda to Riva leaves Garda at 15 minutes past the hour.

The 184 from Riva to Garda arrives at 53 minutes past the hour and the 164 from Garda to Verona leaves at 53 minutes past the hour.

I have wondered if the changes to the bus timetables will actually increase the volume of traffic on the roads. People who ordinarily would have used the bus to travel from Verona to Riva, or from Riva to the lake towns at the south-east, may now choose to hire a car instead of having to change buses.