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Che Guevara.. Offensive??

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Che Guevara.. Offensive??

Apparently a "Couple" of American tourists were so offended by a Mural depicting the man (Galway Council are planning to erect a statue of) they refused to stay in Kilkee.

Future festivals will not be permitted to display the mural of the man, an image which was made a worldwide icon by local artist Jim Fitzpatrick.

Is it just me or are Clare councils totally losing the plot??


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1. Re: Che Guevara.. Offensive??

Does this mean that 'Evita' won't be playing any time soon in Cultúrlann Sweeney? #bummer

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It looks like graffiti to me.

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Poor old Sé

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I think the problem is here that you cannot just plonk a mural on a wall without permission. While this one is of some artistic value, it would set a precedent for a free for all.

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it is making a political statement, so I can see why it could be offensive to some. maybe the "artist" could have painted a mural of the cliffs of moher, or something like that?

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Che Guevara is linked to Kilkee, he visited in 1964, his father was a Lynch. The Cliffs of Moher have nothing to do with Kilke. How anyone would find the mural offensive is a mystery. Thin skin.

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Funny! I used to have a T-shirt with that picture of Che on it.

As for the US tourists mentioned - maybe they work for Chiquita :)

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8. Re: Che Guevara.. Offensive??

It looks like graffiti to me too! But I take the point that if there is a Festival, it should be possible to have icons or whatever on display.

A family member of mine is involved with a dramatic society which is not allowed put up posters/banners advertising its shows in its own town/county yet can do so in the neighbouring county!

As for people taking offence at Che or anyone else, thats a matter of taste. If you don't like festival - don't go.

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Somebody or other in America or Ireland is always going to be put off about something other than safely bland which is presented in any public forum of any kind. It's the acceptable price the written word, arts, nations pay for trying to maintain a diverse society with strong rights of free speech. The trick is to weigh the merits or lack thereof involving each protestation or presentation on a case by case basis. Just think of the variation in reactions we get to what's presented here in a positively inclined travel forum . Sometimes, especially politically, "the good guys" just have to lose in the maintenence of free speech..

As many know, there's a excellent book and film of an earlier stage in Guevara's idealistically portrayed early life as a doctor: the Motorcycle Diaries, which comes off quite differently than the more controversial older image portrayed in the Cannes Winner Che. It seems that, particularly among older conservatives, correctly or otherwise, he's often dismissed as simply another in a long heritage of decidedly corrupt Communists about whom many know next to nothing.

I just wonder at the usefulness and distraction involved anywhere in highlighting anyone so clearly engendering of political controversy. Whether of a right or left inclination, the context of a festival or otherwise decidedly tourist environment seems to me a less prudent setting for such circumstances. I also find curious the need for a small number, even here on this forum, demonstrate in resorting to "asocial" reactions when contesting another's output.

In the case of Che who visited and was being remembered in a context of an anniversary of that event, coupled with the fact that it has a decidedly Hispanic cultural emphasis, I would agree this is a specialized environmental circumstance where people in advance have a sense of what easily might be less than surprising if included or acknowledged. I would agree those disinclined would be better served by going elsewhere at such a time.

In conclusion, I believe people should strive to accept anyone who isn't being clearly offensive (or perhaps decidedly lazy but let's not open yet another can of worms just now) here on a travel forum, but even events engineers should be a bit less liberated involving "what's dicey" in a context of broadly inclusive festivals, purely social celebration and the like. The exception for me would be anything highly specific such as this particular Che included circumstance or under a more broadly liberating "arts festival" banner, the very nature of which includes at least some elements challenging and controversial.

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