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advice on revised itinerary

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Many thanks to all for help with planning our first trip to Israel. I have changed our dates and as of now our itinerary looks like this:

1. sept. 5(Friday) arrival at 3:00PM at Ben Gurion, car rental and drive to Haifa, overnight in Haifa

2. sept. 6(Saturday) day trip to Akko, Safed, Tiberias and back to Haifa

3. sept. 7(Sunday) leave very early from Haifa and drive to Masada (need suggestions about route, trying to visit Masada late afternoon), overnight at Ein Gedi or Ein Bokek

4. sept. 8(Monday) drive from Dead Sea to Eilat(drop rental car) and cross the border to go to Petra for a 2 day visit(stay at Moevenpick for 2 nights); would like to know if we could make it to Petra for the 8:30 evening tour

5. sept. 9(Monday) visit Petra

6. sept. 10(Tuesday) visit Petra, go back to Eilat and overnight

7. sept 11(Wednesday) morning flight toTel Aviv and transfer to Jerusalem

8. sept. 12-15 Jerusalem until evening, then move to Tel Aviv

9. sept. 16-18 Tel Aviv (conference)

Any critique and suggestions are greatly appreciated as I would like to go ahead and make hotel reservations.

10. sept. 19(Friday) extra day, any suggestions?(going to Caesarea and Haifa ?)

11. sept. 20(Saturday) flight home at 5:00AM from TLV

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1. Re: advice on revised itinerary

You can't visit Safed on a Saturday - the Jewish Sabbath. Safed is a religious city, in fact one of the holy cities of Judaism. It's inappropriate to visit on Shabbat. Plus all the Judaica shops will be closed that day.

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2. Re: advice on revised itinerary

There is no point in going to Safed/Tzfat on a Saturday, as everything will be closed. The synagogues will be open only for worship, not for tourism, and you won't be able to take photos. And all the shops and restaurants will be closed as well. That being so, skip Safed.

September 8: Yes, if you leave in the morning you should be in Petra in plenty of time for the 8:30 p.m. tour.

You will have to be at the airport at 2 a.m. for your flight on September 20. I would not spend the day before that rushing around. You don't need to book anything now for that day, so see how you feel when the time comes. If you have the energy you can go to Caesarea, but why go back to Haifa when you will already have been there?

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3. Re: advice on revised itinerary

Since you are planning on visiting Jordan for a few days I would totally skip driving to the north and stick to the center and south of the country. There is plenty to do there. Besides driving the 3-4 hours from the north to Masada to visit that site in the afternoon (last entrance is 4, with last cable car at 4:45) for under 2.5 hours, is not worth such a long drive. Have you toured the Negev extensively?

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4. Re: advice on revised itinerary

How about visiting Nazareth and Galilee area from Haifa on that Saturday?

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5. Re: advice on revised itinerary

Not a problem to travel to Nazareth and the Galilee by rental car on Saturday. But your drive the following day will be a very long one. Departing from Haifa by 6:30 a.m. you should bypass morning rush hour. If you leave between 7-9:30 you will run into traffic. The drive from Haifa to Masada without stopping, by driving on road 77 to Tiberias and then south on 90 will take at least 3 hours, but more likely closer to 4 -- or more if during rush hour. Sunday is the busiest day of the week for morning rush hour, after the weekend.

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6. Re: advice on revised itinerary

sept. 6(Saturday) day trip to Akko, Safed, Tiberias and back to Haifa

Other than not going to Safed on a Saturday, I think this is a whole lot of driving around on one day. Haifa to Akko and Rosh Hanikra make sense but spending perhaps a half day in Akko and then driving all the way to Tiberias (to see what exactly since most of the sites are not actually in Tiberias but around it) and back through the mountains in the dark only to repeat the next day isn't very efficient. Why not stay overnight near Tiberias and then drive down 90 the next day to Masada. You will save hours of back and forth driving time over the two days.

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7. Re: advice on revised itinerary

How about driving south from Haifa, on rt 4 or 75 and 6 all the way to almost Be'er Sheva and then east to rt 90 for Masada?

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8. Re: advice on revised itinerary

You could feasibly do that. Route 6 is a tollway which is charged to the rental agency and then to you within 60 days(not much around $25-30 for this trip depending on the agency). From Beer Sheva you can go east to the Romam Ramp. The drive not during rush hour(7 a.m.-9:30 a.m. is about 3 hours and can take alot more if during rush hour. The 90 route has very little traffic. This way has traffic all the way except the last 30 km.

Keep in mind that Israel, while small is not that small. Most if the population lives on the coast and therefire there will be alot of congestion on the roads, especially Sunday morning goung south on 6.

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9. Re: advice on revised itinerary

Carmen, I see no point to return to Haifa after visiting Nazareth and the Galilee (Sea of Galilee area?). Suggest to spend the night either in one of Tiberias hotels or at one of the resorts along the Sea of Galilee and head mornings straight down on RT#90 to Masada and the Dead Sea.

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10. Re: advice on revised itinerary

It might make more sense to fly straight from Haifa to Eilat (schedules allowing - otherwise from Tel Aviv to Eilat), then pick up a car in Eilat and visit the Dead Sea on the way back to Jerusalem. That way you will cut out a long day of driving from your schedule. Otherwise, as others have said, you should stay the second night somewhere around Tiberias. That way you can spread out your schedule a bit as it won't take you two days to drive from Tiberias to Eilat with a stop at Masada.

I would definitely not take the alternative route on highway 4 - as Chana said, much more traffic. Route 90 is a beautiful scenic desert route and route 4 is a fairly boring commuter route.

Another logical option would be to fly straight to Eilat on your arrival in Israel, thus seeing Petra over the weekend - and then you can move your sightseeing in the north to a time that is not Shabbat.

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