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New to the Boards

Sept marked My wife and I 1st trip. It was a Junket out of Boston..

We were offered the same trip for $159.00 but opted for driving instead.

Since we were comped the room, we just rented a car and drove. So Fridat at 1am we headed out for the long drive and arrived at 8am at the Showboat. We went to the Canal St Bread com and had a coffee and danish. At 8:30 my Wife said she was going to try and check in, I said good luck and low and behold they allowed us a room. Off to the garage to get the bags. No upgrades as the Lady said all the VIP's were in adn the hotel was booked. We had the Orleans Tower 15th floor facing North. Not a bad view as we can see the Ocean but also the empty lots LOL...

It was a very cold and windy weekend, esp on the Boardwalk. Friday night the casino was half empty, kinda odd seeing it was sold out.. No luck we dropped $200.00 each in about 70 mins playing time.

In bed by 11pm and we awake at 10am.... Long drive the day before plus not much sleep .

Get coffee and take our showers and by 11:30 we head to the Boardwalk. We walked to the Trop and had the Breakfast buffet... Not bad but the price being what it is, is not worth it.

Walk back to the Showboat and it's now 2:30pm. We took the shuttle to Harrahs. Looked around, then took the Jitney to the Borgate. The Jitney was dirty and smelly and old. Not worth the $2.00 per person they charge... Had to take one back to the Showboat and it was a driver from hell as he was speeding and take corners. Thought he would flip the little blue bus a few times..

Could not get res for Casa di Napoli :( It being my Wifes Birthday I was so sorry for not making any in advanced. We settled for the buffet as every resturant was booked.

About 10pm we decided to gamble, the casino was mobbed. Slim pickings for slots. We both went through about $150.00 in an hour... No playing time at all. About 11pm we both sat at a triple diamond machine... It soon ate my $50.00. My wife was down to $20.00 when she hit for $250.00.

She told me to cash it in and gave me $100.00 to play. I lost that in 20 mins and had enough. About midnight she was down to about $20.00 again and saw her penny machine open and went to play it. It's a 5 reel forget the name. Well in 30 mins she had 5 bonus rounds and was up to $353.00 not bad playing max bet at $1.80 a pull.... She played for 3.5 hours before it took it all back, but at least she got playing time.

Went to the room at 3:30am and had our wake up call ring at 8:am... Talk about dead lol too many mudslides that night. Got a few coffees and took showers and checked out at 9am. On the road at 9:50am for the 350 mile back home.

Just checked we were both offered 3 free nights each during the week up till August. We had no free offers for Vegas though????

Last trip with the Junket we gambled less in AC and were offered 5 fre nights each at the Paris. I am guessing due to it being a slow month in Vegas we got the offers?

Also this trip allowed us free rooms at Caesars last trip did not?

We now love AC, though it's far from being Vegas same can be said about Vegas is not AC.

I don't understand a few things though, maybe someone can answer them?

1) Why are the buffets so exspensive?

2) Why are the machines so tight LOL....I saw no big winners this trip, and heard many people saying the same thing.

I have More questions, but they don't need answers yet LOL...

So we looking to going back in July or eary August.

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1. Re: New to the Boards

Great Post and welcome to the boards. I am sure you will here a lot moving forward as many of us seem to end up here everyday or so. We were in AC this weekend and saw the same thing. Saturday night was so crowded that you could not find 2 machines together. I am assuming it was the holiday weekend making it that way. On your questions, the machines have always been this way in AC, but with the numbers starting to come in on reduced revenues, they may have to change.

The buffetts are maybe a little more than than the other Harrah's properties in Vegas, but not much more in my opinion. Naturally they are not as low as some of the off-strip ones. But again, I think the answer is because at this time, they can get that price.

Again,welcome!

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roger,Great post about trip.It seems all Harrahs casinos are very TIGHT with their Slots.We don't have much luck at them either and do most of our playing(and winning)at the other casinos.Food has Always been High in A/C because they all stick together and we all pay the price.I believe the tight machines are due to the lost revenue they are trying to recoup from last years shutdown and Penna. taking their business.I see you had your Jitney experience.It can be a wild ride but is the best way to get around A/C. Keep in touch on here,its a Great Forum!

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3. Re: New to the Boards

Hey, Morning Money LOL. Welcome to the AC forum. It's a great place here with many knowledgable folks who can answer any of your AC question. It sounds like you did have fun even though the machines were pretty tight. I guess it really depend on the month you go, the days the hours you play ( morning vs afternon vs latenight gambling )

Some folks like me like to do my gamimg late night ( slot playing usually 10 pm until 7 am roughly.)

For me i find the slots pay out better later at night but us gamblers all have our superstitions don't we LOL.

Were you only there 1 night ? Thats a pretty long drive eh ?

I laughed at your comments about The Jitneys, they are truly the Ride From Hell LOL. I swear they make sure they hit every pothole they can find on the road. Seriously it is actually very dangerous especially for The Elderly & for Folks with any type of Back Problems etc...

As for the buffets if you don't get them comped to me most are not worth the price that they ask for them. Hopefully when you go back the slots will be a little looser.

AGAIN WELCOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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4. Re: New to the Boards

Morning to you big guy.Come on Spring!!!

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5. Re: New to the Boards

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome...

Yes the slots were tight :( and we also noticed like last trip after 11:00-11:30pm they seemed to dish out more?

I often wonder if the casino can change the odds on a machine from a computer? After all they are all linked to a master one right lol.

I don't believe in a true RNG also. A computer is running on software and software is programned. Given a 3 reel machine has 128 stops per reel and if I do my math right it's 128x128x128 =2097152 total stops. But what if a program was in place that when it hits a certain combination it resets to another program lol.

In Las Vegas back in 2004 while staying at the Sahara I was a bit loaded from drinking and thought I saw a pattern. I told the Wife I was going to hit the jackpot and I did on a Triple Diamond quarter. Again I was a bit drunk but only remember seeing a patten a few months later like it was a dream.

Anyhow, we are happy with the Showboat so far. In Vegas 2 trips in a row we were promised free nights only to get there and not have them. The Showboat made good by comping us 4 free nights each even though we only went for 2 and used 1 room. We looking forward to going again in July or early Aug as we can get comped 3 nights each, though we will only use 1 room.

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6. Re: New to the Boards

The casinos can NOT change the payback, odds, paytables, etc. from a master computer. YET. That would be called 'server-based gaming' and could be coming in the future. Right now, a change to a machine must be made by openning up the machine and working on it, under the eye of the Gaming Commission.

AC has the same 'gambling' laws/rules as Vegas, if that means anything.

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7. Re: New to the Boards

jmp

My comment was more of a tounge in cheek one.

I know they would have to switch out the eprom chip. I have no idea what the min payback % are in AC? Anyone know?

I have no problem playing a machine with a 92% payback, but as a gambler I think that I have the right to know or at least what the min is.

I bought a triple diamond machine last year and the payback is at 92%. Though the machine goes through a tight period it also cycles through a giving period. In AC I did not see much of this. Judging by the people who said the machines were tight last weekend is kinda odd to me.

They can't change out the chips in every machine in a short time. If they can in the future with software I am afraid they will be digging their own graves. I can't imagine playing slots knowing a software program is controllable at the click of a mouse :(

I do think that a chip can be programed to be hotter at certain times of the day or on certain days as long as it is with it the winning % set by the gaming commish, Yea I know it sounds silly.

I also know slots are one of the worst games to play but seeing I only drink while playing slots I only have to keep my witts enought to feed it money and push a button LOL....

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8. Re: New to the Boards

Roger ,

Some new Slots in AC can have payouts/games individually changed at the flip of an internal switch . But they still must go through a "close down" procedure established by the CCC . which would take them out of service for about 2/1/2 hours .

As far as the RNG it keeps running at the same rate as long as the machine is plugged in . It doesn't stop or change depending on the play of the game . It is runnig the same when the reels are stopped or spinning , if there is someone playing the machine or not .

I think the minimum payout for slots is around 88% and about 90% for VP in AC . Overall the machines in AC payback about 91.5 % . This is a couple points under the overall Vegas payout , but possibly because Vegas has higher progressive jackpots rather than a reflection on usual play . AC progressives are subject to a different( easier )close down procedure in AC .

To the best of my knowledge machine can't be set for time of day or day of week hot flashes . It is just one of those things . Like we all tend to look at the clock when it says 7:11 . It's just thet we tend to notice and remember the 7:11 's !

Buffet prices are actually fair , it is just that AC casinos don't use them as loss leaders the way Vegas does . Local NJ can usually find a $5-$10 coupon for one of them in the local paper . There is a $5 pp one going around now for the new Harrah's Buffet . If we wake up in time we might go down Sunday and give it a try . Otherwise our next schedualed trip in for St. Patty's day .

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9. Re: New to the Boards

roger.. First of all, welcome to the AC Forum! Like moneywho said, lots of great people here.

"While at the Sahara, and pretty loaded..." Been there, done that as well! Sahara was hotel I stayed in the first couple of times I went out there. Good beverage service, and I could play blackjack for $1! Alas, that was years ago... <sigh>

As far as that server based gambling, there have been articles in Casino Player and Strictly Slots magazines about it. Although it wouldn't be good for public relations, I am betting that it wil become reality in the not-too-distant future.

As far as your trip, sounds like you two had a good time, although winning and getting some more playtime would've helped. Who knows, maybe in July/August you can get that cash back, while traversing the Boardwalk in great weather! <grin>

Just a friendly suggestion for any of your future trips: if you want lower cost meals without making reservations, there are several affordable restaurants in AC that serve good food. Atlantic City doesn't have *many* restaurants, but the ones that it does have are really good.

Again... welcome! <grin>

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10. Re: New to the Boards

Hi Roger!

Welcome to the AC Forum! Great trip report! There are a lot of wonderful folks on here (several have already posted) that will always help you.

That's a LONG drive from Boston! Just to give you an alternative, I live in CT and I take the train all the time--once a month. I take Amtrak into Philly, and from Philly they run a commuter train called the Atlantic City line that runs out of Philly to AC. When you get there they have free shuttle buses (yes, the Jitneys from hell) that will take you to your hotel for free. It might me a little more to take the train (well maybe for me being a single it's a break even...) But when gas was $3.50 a gallon it was worth it. Also if you want to come down in the summer you'll spend a LOT longer than 7 hours driving. Terminator had posted here a few months back that Amtrak is supposedly starting a shuttle/express from Penn Station to AC, but I haven't heard much more on that. I have to tell you, I was down in AC last Feb. for my birthday-it was the weekend we had the one big blizzard in New England--and the only on time train was the AC line.

If I time my trains right & get the connections, it can take me about 5 or 5-1/2 hours. If I drive from CT it's 4- 4 1/2 that extra hour is worth it for the aggravation you save. Amtrak does run Acela from Boston to Philly--that'll cut your travel time too--I take it out of New Haven.

Just want to offer you an alternative to driving. The time flies when you are asleep!! Welcome and hope to hear more from you! P.S.-How come you don't go to Foxwoods or Mohegan like the rest of your state-wink.

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