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Police department and safety issues

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Police department and safety issues

Last Sat. morning around 2am , a NYC man was stabbed and robbed while asking directions near Florida and Atlantic Ave. This was an area that had been amongst the more safe in AC . It is near Coconutz Exotic Dance Bar , and Caligula's Couples Club .

Just the day before the AC NAACP complained to Police Chief Mooney that the ACPD uses too much force and derogatory remarks against blacks in AC . Mooney responded that some of the younger officers might need verbal skill enhancement . And added that the Police Department is significantly understaffed . Other reports say the ACPD needs at least another 100 partol officers to bring it up to full strenth .

Last year I used to drive / walk wherever I wanted to go . Now I'm inclined to park at a casino and cab it if I want to go elsewhere . AC cannot become a destination resort with this type of problem . I think the casinos better stop blaming the 5% drop in earnings on the PA Slots and the Smoking Ban . They need to get this city safe and lively ..."Always Turned On ! "

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PS , there are conflicting reports about wether the man was stabbed or if the injuies were solely from being slammed face down on the ground . But the man said his wallet was stolen .

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You are right - this is an issue that must be addressed or AC will once again sink to the bottom. For all the glitz that there is just blocks away, too many people are turned off by the conditions they see when driving to or from the casinos. If people do not feel safe on the streets then you are right, it will not become a destination.

You can walk the strip in Vegas at 3AM and many people who like to compare the two cities always sight the fact you can not do that in AC. It's sad to see the conditions a couple of blocks off the boardwalk and you are right...if the casinos don't help the area 5% drop will be nothing!

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allure and Frank... You guys are both spot on in your observations. As much as I try to convince my friends, acquaintances, and family to give AC a shot --most have been to Vegas--, they always mention the perception of AC as dangerous. I honestly cannot keep saying "well, just stay on the Boardwalk and near the casinos, and you'll be fine". Because really, conditions are worsening.

Us regulars are used to seeing the less than perfect scenes away from the casinos, but honestly, how would someone who has never been there feel driving into town near some of these scenes? Like they say, "you never get a second chance to make a first impression".

One thing I always wondered: the casinos always have plenty of security guards inside their walls; why don't they position some of them on the outside perimeter of the properties? Seems like this would make people feel safer walking the Pacific Avenue corridor?

It seems that AC had made great strides these last few years; it is a shame to see the city taking steps backwards. Perhaps some of the CRDA money could be used to help with the hiring of more ACPD officers? Though not a "project", per se, safety is a huge issue if the CRDA wants to keep getting their full stash from the casinos!

Just my two cents...

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Just a question related to this. Is the AC Police Department understaffed because they don't have the money to bring the force up to strength or because they can not get recruits?

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Frank... From what allure has posted and from what I've read elsewhere, it is a lack of financial resources that inhibits hiring more officers.

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Actually they are short handed because the City just settled a contract after binding arbitration that has been delayed by non productive talks for 4 years. Officers who were available to retire were waiting for this to get the large retro check and the increased pension. Once signed they had just under a hundred officers retire at once and the hiring and training requirements are taking a long time. The last group of 30 some officers sent to the academy gratuated only about 2/3 after the others washed out. It just takes time to replace that many people.

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There is a NJ State Law that requires police officers to live in the community they patrol . The largest number of AC residents are living in the housing projects . These people are often not qualified to apply for the job or if they do they are in the one third that wash out . Furthermore the pay for qualified officers is not competitive , for the amount of service required , with jobs offered by casinos and other businesses . The employee pool is pretty well drained when it comes to hiring more officers . They need to either increase the scope of the pool or increase the incentives .

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Bud , I think , for various reasons that the Casinos want to discourage people from leaving their properties .

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As crazy as it may sound the NJ law only requires a police officer to reside in the City in which they are hired. Once hired they can move wherever they wish. In Atlantic City many people seeking a police officer job move into apartments and reside there long enough to establish residency, some people maintain their original residence,and once hired they move out. Cities have challenged this law many times and the courts have upheld it for police and fire personnel only. I have mixed feelings on this. I think at a minimum you should have to be a resident for 5 years prior to being hired so that you will at least have a general knowledge of the city you will be working in. After being hired if you want to move that's fine with me. Many officers fear for their families safety if they live where they work due to the nature of the job and the people they come in contact with.

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Well, it sounds to me like the folks of AC better decide real quick how they want the rest of the world to see their city. Sounds like typical NJ politics and as typically happens, it is the residents that suffer. The government of AC better realize real quick that if their city goes to hell it won't be able to sustain the casino industry. There are just too many other options available.

As someone said, those of us who are long timers understand the nature of AC, but first timers who may have had Vegas experience are shocked when they see the city just outside the casinos. The casinos better wise up too and put pressure on the city government and not worry about smoking but the real threat to their business...the city of Atlantic City!