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Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

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Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

Nicotine in cigarettes ( and pinch tobacco , patches , gums , etc .)stimulates the production of dopamine in the brain . Dopamine is a 'feel good' chemical . It can make you play longer and even get over the bad tate of losing quicker . in an average casino , after 4 hours , Non-smokers have about 70% ( on average ) of the metabolized Nicotine in their blood as the chain smokers do . Casinos experiment with injecting various things such as oxygen and scents into the casino air supply in order to make the gamblers feel better . But they cannot legally put nicotine into the air supply . Therefore they depend of the 20% to 30% of the casino population who are smokers , to put it there for themselves AND the other 70% to 80% of the casino population . They don't want to encourge patrons to use patches etc. ( after all they could give out free nicotine gum or mints to people ) because this affects a drug for that encouraging the entire casino population to play ( on avg. lose ) more . I just read that from 1997 to 2005 the tobacco industry has raised the amount of nicotine ( the addictive chemical in cigs ) by 11% . Therefore the second hand smoke contains more . Maybe even more than the 11% increase since the inhaled smoke is cooler and filtered .

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1. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

So does this support the arguement that a smoking ban will harm casino revenue?

All the casino employees that I have spoken to about the ban (not that I was taking a poll or bringing it up - but the few that mentioned something to me about it) said they were not happy about it.

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AMBRVA

The best non biased probable result of a smoking ban in AC , based on other places such as CA , NYC, DEL . ,

There will be an immediate short term drop ,5% up to 25%, in revenue for all the casinos (gambling areas ) .

Casinos that depend more on "Smoking Groups' such as the Chinatown Bus Charters will be hit worse , and for longer . I would think that Caesars , Taj and Resorts might be hit worst and Harrah's and Borgata would not be greatly affected .

All AC casinos would lose some "Smoking Whales"

After a short time most American smokers ( excludes such groups as green card holders) will adapt to going outside to smoke in special pavillions which will feature ammenities such as TVs etc.

The increased revenue from non-smokers will quickly ( within 3 months ) make up for and eventually exceed the income lost from the smokers who choose not to go to the AC casinos .

"Smoking Whales " will take longer to replace , taking 6 to 12 months .

In order to make up for the loss of income from the "smoking groups" such as the Chinatown Bus Charters , Atlantic City Casinos will have to find new groups to target . These might include : Families with young children , Singles over 35 , Weekday entertainment attendees , NYC/AC combo package tour buyers , Specialty Niteclubs ( gay , swing dancing, and so on .) , NYC train service users , etc . The casinos have not done well at this yet becausethey have the wrong people , and AC itself has no central planning of significance .

If one AC casino were to remove Nicotine from their air supply they might very well lose non-smokers to other AC casinos when they have a run of bad luck or other bad experience . This may be one of the reasons why no casino wants to be the "first" non-smoker casino

Regardless , AC casinos are making record profits and can afford to lose/invest a bit to join 21st century sesibilities for places of Public Accommodation . For example , families with children are less likely to be non smokers and more likely to be weeklong vacationers than the Chinatown gamblers .

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3. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

I also noticed there is a totally smoke free casino getting approval to break ground in Nevada .

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4. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

Everything you said in your reply to me has been said on here before in one of the other many and extensive smoking ban threads you have started. I guess I don't know why you feel the need to make this forum not the "Atlantic City" forum but the "Non Smoking Atlantic City" forum.

It is nice to have this information, but we don't need a daily smoking ban thread. It's actually starting to feel hostile.

EVERYONE gets it that you are happy about the smoking ban. I don't know what you are trying to achieve with the constant reposting of information about smoking and the smoking ban.

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5. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

Not to push the issue ambrva1, but you did ask.

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6. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

Hello. What is a "Smoking Whale"?

Thanks and have a great day.

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7. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

Ask and you did receive!

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8. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

I asked because the information in the original post seemed to contradict previous posts that the smoking ban would NOT affect casino revenue. If the nicotine in the air causes players to play and lose more, then it would seem they lose revenue.

(And I wasn't counting the response to me as the "non smoking post of the day". I did ask for and expect a response. I was refering to the original post. I didn't see why this information could not be added to one of the several legnthy posts debating the smoking ban already on here.)

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9. Re: Interesting theory on why casinos are fight the smoking ban

A " Smoking Whale " is a person who gambles a LOT and is also a smoker .

Ambrava ....... my OP in this thread was simply to post the theory about some of the things casinos put in our air to make us feel better . I wonder if they might even add caffeine to their beverages ? ( To make us less tired , more interested ) . You ASKED if the ban would cause the casinos would lose money . I replied in a complete yet concise manner .

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AMBRVA.....

Just saw your last post . The reason it wasn't added to another post was I just thought of this when I saw a news report about the tobacco companies adding more nicotine to the cigarettes . And I thought the concept of the casinos giving us drugs such as nicotine , alcohol , caffeine and such "on the sly" was worthy of a separate thread . Another interesting thing along this line , if you are not a very experieced drinker , it is hard to tell how much actual alcohol you are drinking at the slots and such . I think casinos used to have a 1 1/2 ounce rule when serving alcohol . Now if I get an 'on the rocks' drink it often contains 2 to 3 times that . I'm not complaining , but what about those inexperienced drinkers that come on some sort of charity or church outing !

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