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Hi I am Thinking of going to KL for about 8 days in July as Malaysia is about the only Asian area I havent visited. I dont mind doing some shopping but some adventure activities would be a nice change. Does anyone have some suggestions?

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8 days in KL might be a bit long, but lots of suggestions to keep your mind off shopping but when you get there . . .

KL is a really easy city to get around. Most of the sights are walk able - 10-20mins. Or a short ride on a bus, train or monorail. The Kuala Lumpur tourist Hop On Hop Off bus is another popular way to have a trip round the city.

Do use the monorail and taxis, or walk. But many people would rather use the bus than haggle with the taxi drivers. The monorail costs a couple of ringitt per trip so is very cheap and easy – it will work for Chinatown [Maharajalela station +10min walk], Little India [Medan Tuanku station +10min walk], KLCC/Petronas [Bukit Nanas or Raja Chulan stations +10min walk from each], Bukit Bintang [Bukit Bintang or Imbi stations], the sites near the lake gardens [KL Sentral plus taxi]. Tickets are really cheap, you can buy a ticket a journey [1-2ringitt] or 20 ringitt valid for up to 6 months. Start around 06:00 and finish about 00:00 midnight.

Trains / LRT and monorail systems covers most of the city, it is easy to get round to most of the sights in the city. Most journeys are 2-3myr, so very cheap. http://www.kiat.net/malaysia/KL/transit.html





A reasonable map of Kuala Lumpur is a must.



Bukit Bintang and KLCC are well connected to see the sights and the shopping, and any hotel near Bukit Bintang (BB) or KLCC will give you the shop to you drop experience. BB area of KL has plenty to shop, eat, do, see, drink, dance etc etc and good connections with the Monorail. Several of the monorail stations do not have escalators up to them, which may be an issue.

The Hop-on-hop-off bus is a great way as a familiarisation of Kuala Lumpur for a first time visitor or as a reminder of the city. It follows a long and interesting route that covers most of the tourist sights [with pre-recorded info in English and several other languages]. You need to do the whole circuit to get back to your starting point but can get on and off at any time as its name suggests. The buses run at 15-30 minute intervals and takes 45-60 minutes to complete a full circuit. Stop 1 is at the Malaysian Tourism Complex on Jalan Ampang and stop 22 is at KLCC / Petronas Towers, which is not far from stop 1. The signs are very clearly marked and highly colourful. It is not cheap compared to using pubic transport, the train / monorail / bus, but does give a great introduction to Kuala Lumpur and a good way to spend a day to get to know KLs sights along the 22 stops enroute. The HOHO bus will NOT pick up directly at your hotel, only the designated stops. The down side will be that at times of heavy traffic the bus can not do the route as quickly. You buy tickets on the bus on the day or from large hotel concierge and approved travel agents. You can buy adult or child tickets to cover 24 (38/17myr) or 48 (65/29myr) hours, the 24 / 48 hours start from the time you get your ticket and expire 24 or 48 hours later, ie buy at 2pm Friday, expire 24hours later at 2pm Saturday or 48hours later at 2pm Sunday. The buses run from 8:30am to 8:30pm. Check out their website http://www.myhoponhopoff.com/index.html

The KL traffic and route can make the HOHO not seem like very good value for money. Another option would be the RapidKL integrated bus services, which visits all the same places as the HOHO via various bus routes and more, like Batu Caves, although not in a circular route. Prices are based on travel to and from zones, but expect to pay between 1 - 3myr per trip. Buy the tickets on the bus. Check on their website for more info:




Sadly, there is not much of the 'real' KL left in KL. A few old shop houses here and there. If you wanted to experience ‘old Malaysia’ then why not visit Penang - real traditional stuff there mixed with loads of sights, night markets, some of the best food in Malaysia!

Petronas Towers / Suria KLCC mall / Petrosains Discovery Centre / Kuala Lumpur City Centre park / Kuala Lumpur Aquarium [and a fish spa] / Petronas Philharmonic Hall / KL Exhibition and Conference Centre. The park gives just the best views of the Tower, You can however do a free tour of the sky bridge on the 41st/42nd floor of the Petronas Towers and need to get there early (0800) to get tickets - you queue up and tours are issued by time on a first come first served basis for a specific tour time. Tickets can not be booked in advance, although there is some selection on the time of the tour for that day. The skybridge is closed on Monday. The views are not that brilliant compared to say, KL Menara, but it is a been there done it tick. The park has some great views of the towers, as does the Sky Bar at Traders hotel or the Luna Bar at the Pacific Regency if you fancy a quick drink day or night.

Bukit Bintang – A great place for shopping with 10malls and endless shops giving a great choice of goods and prices and eating at restaurants and other eateries to suit all tastes and budgets. Sungai Wang/BB Plaza [500 shops and a real Malaysian treat of all sorts of bargains hidden away], KL Plaza, Times Square [which also has a theme park, Hotel with the Mall], Pavilion [Mid to top end shops and also the best food court which is reasonably priced, very good mix of restaurants and eateries, plus a supermarket], Lot 10 [also has a supermarket and a street-food style food court], Starhill Gallery [very top end but some very nice reasonably priced restaurants], Plaza Low Yat [IT mall], YTL Plaza, BB Park, Imbi Plaza for shopping, plus there are many open fronted shops which offer some great bargains and are identical to those in Chinatown and then there is Jalan Alor / Changkat Bukit Bintang [turn down by KFC opposite BB Plaza] is a whole street of restaurants / bars, and a great place for street food, plus many restaurants along Bukit Bintang. Opposite the Ritz-Carlton is a car park on Jalan Imbi that is also a hawkers centre at night as well as coffee shops and restaurants; some smaller eating places on the small alley ways that run between Bukit Bintang and Jalan Imbi. Ain Arabia or Arab Street is just around the corner in Jalan Berangan, the shopping haven and food and culture of the Arabs in Malaysia.

Walking from KLCC to Bukit Bintang (or vice versa the other way round)

* Either Walk around KLCC park to Traders, or round Mandarin Oriental hotel onto Jalan Penang, then cross over Jalan Pinang, into Jalan Kia Peng which has a couple of appt' blocks at the top of it and has Menara HLA building on the left side of the road (and behind this there is a colonial style bungalow which has a lane that leads to Traders), heading towards and beside the Novotel City Hotel, you will see the escalator up to the pedestrian bridge over Jalan Raja Chulan, this is the back of the Pavilion. Walk thorough the Pavilion and you will come out directly opposite the Starhill Gallery.

KL Menara, it is only a few metres shorter than the Petronas as it is built on a hill [Bukit Nanas aka Pineapple Hill] it give fabulous view of KL and the towers day and night. You can also walk around the forest reserve at the base of the tower. You can go when you want and stay as long as you like on the observation deck. There is a (book able) revolving restaurant that gives [probably] the best views over the city, however, there are better restaurants in KL, but it is worth it for the views. Snack bar at the base of the tower. Added to this is access to some of KL’s original rainforest, Bukit Nanas Forest Reserve, claimed to have been left in-situ whilst KL grew up around it.

Little India - Masjid Jamek Bandaraya / hawkers / fabulous Silk and fabric stores / jewellery / India Street (Jalan Masjid Jamek), oldest parts of the city, Jalan Masjid India is the original shopping haven that has dated back over a century ago. Maju Junction, Sogo, Pertama Complex, Campbell Complex, Lorong Tuanku Abdul Rahman street market [Every Saturday between 5.00 pm -10.00 pm] (on the edge of Little India) Brickfields is also known as Little India, but is a much larger vibrant area of Kuala Lumpur – both are worth visiting.

Central Market [considered as architectural heritage and is a converted former fruit market which now doubles as an air-conditioned Malaysia / SE Asian handicrafts and souvenirs market with eateries] / Independence or Merdeka Square / Sultan Abdul building / Royal Selangor Club / St. Mary's Cathedral / Kuala Lumpur Railway Station - Colonial heritage (walking distance to Chinatown and Little India)

Petaling Street Market is in Chinatown. You can walk to Chinatown / Petaling Street from Maharajelela station. Chinatown is a great place for the [replica goods] market, you will need to bargain hard and the bargains are not what they were. It gets very, very crowded at night, so to avoid the crowds head there at 3-4pm. There is plenty of choice for some really nice food every where through out the day from breakfast to late at night. Sri Mahamariamman Temple [the oldest Hindu temple in Kuala Lumpur] plus other temples / UDA Ocean traditional Chinese shopping mall junction between Jalan Sultan and Jalan Dato H S Lee / Wholesales shop houses. Also in the area with 2 shops is a Malaysia-based chain that specializes in crafts from around the region and offers a modern stylish twist on traditional designs, including handmade batik clothing, silk scarves, throws, cushion covers, beach wraps, jewellery, place mats or eclectic pieces of knick knacks. Peter Hoe has 2 shops in Kuala Lumpur, both in Chinatown. Peter Hoe Evolution, 2 Jalan Hang Lekir, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia +60 3 2026-0711 and Peter Hoe Beyond, 145 Jalan Tun H S Lee, second floor, Lee Rubber Building +60 3 2026-9788. The shop on Jln Hang Kekir is just across the road adjacent from Central Markets. Jalan Hang Kekir runs from Jalan Hang Kastuir to Jalan Sultan and cross Jalan Petaling where the Chinatown market is. The shop on Jalan Tun H S Lee is a also a short walk from Central Market, Jln Tue H A Lee is a long street that runs from Jln Maharajalela to Jln Fereja. [station Pasa Seri on the LRT line or Maharajalela on the Monorail, plus 5 mins walk from both].

Walking between Little India / Central Markets / Chinatown (or vice versa)

* Medan Tuanku is the nearest monorail stop to Little India. It would take 10mins to walk from Medan Tuanku monorail station to Masjid Jamek LRT station. The area is very small. From Medan Tuanku monorail station, walk along Jalan Sultan Ismail away from the Sheraton Imperial. Where the monorail turns towards Chowkit, turn left along Jln Tuanku Abdul Rabman. Continue along there, and turn left into Dang Wangi, and then turn right into Lrg Tuanku Abdul Rabman. Not a long walk at all. If you walk along there you are in the area know as Little India

* From Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahan or Lrg Tuanku Abdul Raham (which run parallel with Jalan Masjid India), walk until you meet up with Jalan Tun Perak, turn left, cross over the river and you are in (technically) Chinatown, follow Jalan Tun Perak until you cross Jalan Tun HS Lee and then turn right and you are in Chinatown.

* If you want to go to Central Market, turn right into Jalan Ampang (rather than Jln Tun HS Lee a bit further along) and just follow the road as it becomes Jalan Hang Kasturi. Then to get to Petaling Street just walk up Jalan Tun Tan Cheng Lock, which is just about opposite Central Market.

* If you want to go to Merdeka Square to see the colonial buildings between the 2, then from Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahan or Lrg Tuanku Abdul Raham (which run parallel with Jalan Masjid India), walk until you meet up with Jalan Tun Perak, turn right and then turn left in Jalan Sultan Hishamundin walk over the river, past Merdeka Square and the Sultan Abdul building etc, then when you get to L Pasra Besar, left, over the river and you will cross Jalan Hang Kasturi (turn left to Central Market) and Jalan Tun HS Lee (turn left for Petaling Street)

Lake Gardens [Taman Tasik Perdana] / Orchid & Hibiscus Gardens / Bird-Butterfly / Deer parks / Carcosa Seri Negara [set within fourteen hectares of landscaped gardens and is the former residence of the last British High Commissioner to Malaysia and is now a colonial deluxe boutique hotel, you can also the Malaysian take on a traditional English High or AfternoonTea] / National [war] Memorial [Tugu Negara] / Parliament House / Museum of Islamic Arts / National Museum [Muzium Negara] / Masjid Negara [National Mosque]. Also the location of Forest Research Institute of Malaysia [FRIM] with canopy walkways, jungle walk ways, arboretum, herbarium, and museum in a natural rainforest setting without travelling to the national parks. The National Palace [Istana Negara] is also a short distance over the river – there are plans to build another state palace and this building will become a museum. Taxi from KL Sentral, and not really in walking distance to anything. This area alone could take up most of a day if you did it all.

LaZat cookery course is a great ¾ day out. They will pick you up and bring you back at the end of a fabulous experience. http://www.malaysia-klcookingclass.com/

Craft Complex, Jalan Conlay - Malaysian handicrafts and artefacts, exhibition gallery, craft museum, stage, souvenir and crafts shops, craft demonstrations and practical interactive sessions, as well as a restaurant. http://www.kraftangan.gov.my

Malaysia Tourism Centre (MaTiC) stop 1 on the Hop on Hop off bus route is located within a colonial building on Jalan Ampang. Offering tourist information, hotel reservations, coach / bus tickets, tour packages, money changer, ATM, Malaysian cafeteria, craft shop and demonstrations, souvenir shop, heritage exhibition, access to the internet. Saloma Theatre Restaurant offers special Malay/ International buffet dinner with a one-hour cultural show. There is a also the Courtyard with open air dining with light snacks and a la carte specialties surrounded by the colonial building in the shadow of the Petronas Towers.




Batu Caves – limestone outcropping 15km north of Kuala Lumpur. Reached by 272 steps leading up to one of the most popular Hindu shrines outside India, dedicated to god Murugan. Made up of three main caves and a few smaller ones. The Temple cave and other caves features Hindu shrines. There is 42.7 meter (140.09 ft) high, and the world's tallest statue of Murugan at the bottom of the steps. Below the Temple Cave is the Dark Cave t does get VERY crowded at night so you could try to visit in the afternoon, and take in, with rock formations, the Ramayana Cave depicts the story of Rama. The easest way to get to Batu Caves is by taxi, it has the least hassle and pretty cheaply around 30MYR. But if you want to use public transport get the LRT to Batu Caves is Sentrul on the Star LRT line, then short taxi ride. You can also get the LRT to Titiwangsa on the monorail line and then transfer to the LRT line there. Equally as cheap is to catch the RAPIDKL bus, using the red city shuttle bus Route No.101, 102, 103, 104 (2MYR for a whole day trip), get to Titiwangsa terminal, then using the blue trunk bus Route No.2T3 (2MYR for a whole day trip), go to Warta Lama bus stop, then cross the road and search for green local bus Route No.21 (1MYR for a whole day trip) to the caves. Total cost for the trip 5MYR/ Use the same route to return to KL. Just make sure you do not loose your ticket. Some like to combine with a day trip to Genting Highlands Resorts [http://www.rwgenting.com/ Casinos, Theme Parks, Cable Car, Entertainment Centres].

Brickfields – Walking distance from KL Sentral. Don’t confuse this with the other older ‘Little India’ at Jalan Masjid India. Various religious temples, mosques and churches, spice shops, grocery outlets, sweet and snacks shops, textile shops, goldsmiths, great restaurants, and food stalls, night market on a Thurday night.

Bangsar – four kilometres south-west of the city centre, wide array of cuisine nightclubs / bars / restaurants / roadside, motorcycle and van hawkers / hawker centres. The Telawi area in Bangsar Baru is often been compared to Singapore's Holland Village and know as "the strip. A large pasar malam, or night market, each Sunday and a daily wet market in Lucky Garden. Another lesser known pasar malam is held in Bukit Bangsar on Wednesdays.

Historical Malacca – two hours south of Kuala Lumpur, Malacca is one of the oldest, and most strategic, trading ports in Malaysia which has undergone Portuguese, Dutch and English rule and some great historical buildings, Nyonya-Baba cuisine, Portuguese Fort de Santiago and the ruins of St. Paul's Church lined by 17th century Dutch tombstones, St. Paul's Hill for a panoramic view of Malacca.


Royal Selangor Pewter Visitor Centre is a 20 minute drive Kuala Lumpur’s centre by taxi or LRT on the Putra line to Wangsa Maju station, http://visitorcentre.royalselangor.com/vc/.

Many all day city tours will include places like the Pewter Centre, Batik factories, photo stop at the majestic Royal Palace, drives along Ambassadors' Row or typical Malay homes are popular fill in or add on’s to tours like all day city tours or those to Batu Caves etc.

Market Square and shophouses along Lebuh Pasar Besar / Shophouses along Jalan Hang Kasturi / Shophouses along Lebuh Ampang (walking distance to Chinatown and Central Market)

Coliseum Cafe & Hotel 98 - 100, Jalan Tuanku Abd Rahman – 1920s colonial hotel and restaurant

Chow Kit – Jalan Haji Hussein street market at night is similar to Chinatown / Petaling Street offering fake goods and delicious local food, near the Chow Kit Monorail stop (best visited during the day)

Pudu market is a more a classic traditional wet market with all sorts of fresh food [the supermarket before the supermarket], but will need to visit real early - 7am!!

Heritage Row – Bars, restaurants and night clubs

Jalan Sultan Ismail / Ampang – nightclubs and bars

Various malls and shopping centres around the city, the Mall - Jln Putra, City Square - Jln Tun Razak, Plaza Ampang - Jln Tun Razak, Avenue K - Jln Ampang, The Weld – Jln Raja Chulan, Hartamas Shopping Centre - Jln Sri Hartamas, Bangsar Shopping Centre - Jln Maarof

Kampung Bahru for the Pasar Minggu, or the Sunday Market. The market starts at 6 pm on Saturday evening and ends Sunday morning at 1 am

Titiswagsa Lake Park / National Theatre / The National Art Gallery

Rumah Penghulu abu Seman, Jalan Stonor – traditional kampong house

Sunway Pyramid and Lagoon/Mall - the Malaysian past time of SHOPPING plus theme park/water park, bowling alley, ice skating rink etc 11km from central KL – Taxi ride from Kuala Lumpur, or catch the LRT to Kelana Jaya Putra LRT Station then Feeder Bus 2-900, or from Subang Jaya KTM Commuter Station catch the U62 Rapid KL bus to the shopping centre. The drop off and pick up point is right outside the centre's main entrance. http://www.sunway.com.my/lagoon/

Midvalley Mega / The Gardens shopping Malls, Bangsar 4km from Kuala Lumpur centre - TAXI RIDE OR TRAIN FROM KL

1Utama Mall - 11km from the centre of Kuala Lumpur - TAXI RIDE OR TRAIN FROM KL

The Curve Mall - 11km from the centre of Kuala Lumpur -TAXI RIDE OR TRAIN FROM KL

The Mines Shopping Fair – 13km from the centre of Kuala Lumpur -TAXI RIDE

Elephant sanctuary – A 2 hour drive to Krau Game Reserve some 90km from Kuala Lumpur and the Kuala Gandah Elephant Conservation Centre, or popularly referred to as the Elephant Orphanage Sanctuary. Located in a beautiful tropical rainforest offering close contact with ‘semi-wild’ elephants, rides, feed them bathing with the elephants at a nearby river http://www.myelephants.org/ – FULL DAY TRIP Razali (the Elephant Man)

Fireflies – 90 minutes north west of Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Selangor is a small rustic town, along the Selangor River mangrove forest Kampung Kuantan is one of two places in the world - the other being along the Amazon River in Brazil - where millions of fireflies can be seen to flash their 'lights'. The best time to see the fireflies is during the new moon, about one to four hours after sunset. Tours normally start in the afternoon and will include a trip to Kota Melawati / Fort Altingsburg , the execution block, royal mausoleum and colonial buildings; there is a bird sanctuary park at the foot of Bukit Melawati; and a chance to see silvered – leaf monkeys, butterflies etc. Dinner on the river side at one of the many seafood restaurants is normally part of the trip. …fortunecity.com/tkkhong/…11restaurant.htm This is a popular tour trip or hire a taxi.

or just walking about to see what you can see in this exciting city

or sitting in a café on Bukit Bintang watching the world go by .

Forest Reserve Institute of Malaysia (FRIM) in Kuala Lumpur - experiencing the rainforest and back-to-nature experience with four jungle tracks: Keruing Trail, Rover Track, Engkabang Trail and Salleh Trail and a Canopy Walk – HALF DAY TRIP

For something adventurous , also look at Skytrex Adventure in Bukit Cerakah forest reserve near Sham Alam 25km west of Kuala Lumpur. Outdoor ‘eco-recreational come educational’ activity which will take the participants from tree to tree via series of aerial obstacles suspended at 3 meters to 22 meters in the air. http://www.skytrex-adventure.com/index.php

Genting Highlands – 51km north east of KL, or about an hour's drive and 2,000 meters above sea level is a mountain peak within the Titiwangsa Mountains on the border between the states of Pahang and Selangor of Malaysia and home to the Genting Highlands resort, the largest casino in Southeast Asia, shows, cable car rides on the Genting Skyway at Gohtong Jaya Kuala Kubu Bharu Selangor and one of the largest hotels in the world with 6,118 rooms, and indoor and outdoor theme parks theme park –


Cameron Highlands – 300km north of Kuala Lumpur, 1– This could be a very long full day trip, so why not stay overnight

Frasers Hill – 105 km north of Kuala Lumpur 1890 colonial-era hill station, golf, hiking, bird watching, restaurants / hotels – FULL DAY TRIP

Berjaya Hills (formerly known as Bukit Tinggi) is 45 minutes drive away from Kuala Lumpur. The concept resort-township for recreation set amongst rugged hills.

Shah Alam - Blue Mosque or Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah Mosque, has the tallest minarets in the world. Decorative Islamic calligraphy and ethnic Malay design elements. Overlooks the Garden of Islamic Arts, and easy access to Skytrex Adventure in Bukit Cerakah forest reserve has a wide variety of attractions worth visiting - HALF DAY TRIP [could combine with Petaling Jaya]

Petaling Jaya aka PJ – 11km from the centre of Kuala Lumpur, home to Utama1, the Curve and Sunway, also Kota Darul Ehsan arch, Thai Wat Chetawan Temple and Menara MBPJ Telecom tower [looks a bit like the Burj Al Arab hotel in Dubai]

Putrajaya - ultra modern city 5km south of Kuala Lumpur, federal administrative centre, built around a large lake there are a number of beautiful bridges, mosque, palaces and other buildings, boat cruises - http://www.i-putra.com.my/minisite/leisure_cruise.htm– HALF DAY TRIP

Cyberjaya – sister city to Putrajaya HALF DAY TRIP [combine with Putrajaya]

Zoo Negara – 120 acres 5km north-east of Kuala Lumpur, visit by day or night– HALF DAY TRIP

Sepang International Circuit – famous for the KL F1 Grand Prix [near KLIA] - HALF DAY TRIP

Port Dickson – 90km south of Kuala Lumpur. 18 km extent of beach from Tanjung Gemuk to Tanjung Tuan but water is not very clear or clean, Fort of Raja Jumaat,, 15th century tomb of a leading historical personality, Ulama Sheikh Ahmad Makhtum, with its famous carved megalith, the lighthouse at Cape Rachardo built by the Portuguese in the 16th century, the Blue Lagoon - FULL DAY TRIP

Have a great time.

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2. Re: Things other than shopping

Can't think of much else . .?

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I've a sneaking suspicion you just "cut and paste" ... ;)

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4. Re: Things other than shopping

Thank you so much for that Travelling Mitch

We will be in KL for 3 days in May, but my feet are aching already :)

If we cover a quarter of that we will be dead for the remaining 16 days of our holiday!

That said, it certainly gives us all the choices, so thanks again.


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I know I can type pretty quickly, but absoultly Jules and why not hey. It is however, my own and no something I 'nicked; from elsewhere - although some of it does appear on the 'Things to do', but its what I put there.

I have a document with the best bits of posts I have made, and I reseach or read about and add to it when its quiet, so I have something useful for everyone. The joys of being a DE!

Plus, I do cut and paste to try to make it individual for each poster, although Sarah did get the full one!!

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6. Re: Things other than shopping

Cut and paste or not...Mitch give the most complete list of all.

Sarah, there is no way for you to follow the list, just pick what interest you and come our with your itenary. Post it here and we can help to put them in order for you.

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7. Re: Things other than shopping

Ha, now I realise the secret, on how Mitch blows people's away with her information! ;)

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who cares copy & paste, it was originally put together. Best reply ever. Another one I have to print and take with me on trip


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9. Re: Things other than shopping

I admit I thought Mitch's response looked like it came from Lonely Planet, but maybe she should be writing for them. Anyway I agree with her, if I had 8 days to fill in KL I'd spend some of it getting out to Penang or down to Melaka.

But I would like to say, for something completely different (and as a husband who got quite tired of shopping after the first 24 hours), go to the Malaysia Craft Centre on Jalan Conlay, ignore the display shops, but go out the back and paint yourself a batik. While it's quite suitable for kids, it's also a very enjoyable couple of hours for an adult. I have just posted a review (though it's not showing up yet?!?!) about it because though we went 15 months ago it's a stand-out memory.

Incidentally Mitch's link points to a very slow-loading website written in Malaysian, try this one which is a good summary, and which points to the official English-language website.


Have a lovely non-shopping holiday... it CAN be done!

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10. Re: Things other than shopping

certainly not Lonely Planet - don't like their books personally.

Its TravellingMitch from my own work accumlated over years of travelling.

Having done batik in the past, it is certainly worth trying and reviews take up to a week to be ok'd by TA. It should show on your reviews as pending.