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Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

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Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

so many different charters down in Costa Rica , any suggestions ?? funny because its in a place that the US Dollar should go far but they have US Prices for the boats ??? we pay a lot cheaper in Mexico & DR when going fishing !!! anyone gone fishing in the past that knows a reasonable charter for in OCT 2014 ?? thanks

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1. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

Costa Rica is not a cheap destination like Dr or mexico.

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2. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

Prices are better out of Quepos and everyone fishes in the same area. Try www mar1sportfishing com for companies in both Quepos & Los Suenos.

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3. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

It all depends on what type or size of boat that you want. Typically an average 28 ft center console would cost about $550-$600 full day out of Herradura next to Los Sueños. Don't forget the tip. Boats usually include all the refreshment you want, beer, soda, water and some snacks. Boats usually leave at 7 or 8 in the morning and return around 3 or 4 in the afternoon.

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5. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

As owner operator of Reel Intense Adventures / EPIC sportfishing (on trip advisor) I am not going to plug myself

But there is no reason to look to quepos for boats, Los Suenos has several great boats and crews to choose from

World class, tournament proven operations that make the reputation for Costa Rica fishing what it is.

If price is a major factor, there are boats moored in Heredurra bay just outside Los Suenos that would be comparable with the price, size and service level of the cheaper boats in Quepos. They are on par with the better operations in the marina but can get you out and hopefully catch you a few fish.

If you like long winded, detailed answers to some of the issues brought up in this thread, feel free to keep reading

To give you an idea of what it takes to run a charter operation here and why things cost what they do:

the dollar only goes further if you eat only rice, beans, fruit & vegetables, and stay in cabinas. Medical & dental care can actually be pretty cheap compare to the US also.

you can get cheap labor here, but you will get what you pay for. Skilled, professional quality labor will likely be at a premium.

Not much is really any cheaper here than in the USA and when you start dealing with non essential "luxury" items, just about everything costs more than in the US.

Even essentials (by US standards)-Cars, Fuel, Electricity, appliances, electronics, batteries etc all cost more than in the US because importation and shipping costs, and duties which can be very high in some cases (Car batteries imported from the US have 105% duty, electronics 65%, cars 54-82% depending on how old. 6 years old or older is higher 82% if you were importing)

with boats and the marine industry:

if you have ever owned or operated a boat in the USA, then you surely realize that any “boat “ product or anything labeled “marine “ always costs substantially more than a similar “non marine” product. Whether or not it is hardware, electronic, even cleaning supplies or toilet paper, it costs allot to get a charter operation up and running and to keep it running and maintained in good condition.

to be a LEGAL charter boat in Costa Rica, it has to be a CR flagged vessel, either built here, or imported and registered here which requires extensive legal work de- flagging from original country's registry, paying duty( 33% of value of vessel), re registering here in CR, getting require navigation permits fishing license jumping through hoops to obtain a business license, etc.

a USED quality built, safe seaworthy vessel capable of carrying 4 to 6 passengers and 2 or 3 crew, the 30-35 ft range can easily run $100,000-$300,000 or more. At the lower end of the price range you will have an older vessel with more hours and issues to address, needing more work to get it right. Upper end of that price range you could get a better built, maybe newer vessel with less problems (at least the time of purchase).

in order to run a quality professional operation:

Fuel is a big part of expense, but not even half. diesel is about $5 gallon right now, gasoline cost more and less efficient when it comes to boats.

we have to run pretty much a minimum of 20-25 miles each way most days if you want to experience of the world class fishing that the central pacific of CR is known for. some days you might need to get out 40 miles or more

a 35 ft boat can easily burn 80 -100 gallons on a pretty typical trip here, and you really don't want to be running 30 miles offshore in a boat any smaller than 30 ft.

some places, have very short runs (like Hawaii or south FL) or boats are allowed to sell fish to subsidize costs (Hawaii) , here Charter boats are not allowed sell fish, fish caught should belong to the clients.

35 to 50 baits (ballyhoo) at $1.50each, baits should not be thawed out and refrozen, need new ones every day.

2 or 3 bags of ice @ $8 each melts away every day

charters here supply food and drink; which most charters in the US do not.

on my boat -a case of beer, 12 sodas, 10 teas, case of water, chips, fruit, and decent plus food for lunch (from Jimmy T’s ) will easily run the boat $120 or more to feed 4 or 5 people plus a couple crew, the drinks alone cost about $70 (you will see when you go to the grocery store).

If you want to keep your boat and gear together in good shape and business running in the long haul then you need to figure in the costs of tackle which gets used, broken, lost or just eventually need to be replace from wear and tear, or upgraded from time to time. Figure $100 day - $50 terminal tackle (line, hooks, leader, sabikis, lead) gets used and destroyed daily, the other $50 is contribution for replacement and repairs of hard tackle-

Reels, rods, teasers, lures etc which gets slowly beat and destroyed and eventually needs to be replaced to

Maintenance and upkeep of a boat, engines, and all other systems- pumps , switches wiring, steering, refrigeration, electronics, exterior, etc, is essential for safety, long term success of an operation. I don’t think any of my clients would keep returning if there was a bunch of broken stuff that did not work and was in apparent disrepair.

Purchasing boat stuff here will often cost 2or 3x what is does in the states, or you can buy it in the states, ship it and pay duty, either way it is expensive.

As I mentioned earlier, you can get labor cheap here, but quality skilled professional & fluently bi-lingual labor will cost you. To have a good crew you have to pay them and better crew cost more, they will be in demand and if you do not pay them fairly and full time they will move on.

After all this figure the 20% commission off the top of any trip coming from a broker or booking agent.

Then you have dockage and marina fees, insurances, legal fees, accounting, taxes, Caja (social security for employees) annual renewals of licenses and permits and probably a few things I am forgetting.

I assure you no charter operator is getting rich, and most teeter on edge of bankruptcy

Like the old saying goes “ the best way to make a small fortune in the charter business is to start with a large fortune.”

A mechanical failure can easily cost you thousands of dollars. A major failure or breakdown during high season can put you out of business.

While some boats are owned by relatively wealthy people, who just want to charter it out to reduce costs of vessel ownership.

Very few owner operators (or charter operations in general) can even make or maintain a profitable business.

Even the Mar1 sportfishing from quepos, which was mentioned, has not had their own boat operational for a couple years, they probably figured it was easier and more profitable to not maintain a boat, but rather just collect commissions by booking other boats.

It is not an easy or highly profitable, or secure business when you look at the big picture.

If it was, everybody who dreams of fishing for a living, and spending everyday on the water would be doing it. The few of us that do it, take a huge risk have a passion for it and do it because we love what we do more than money. We are very fortunate to be able to share what we love with out clients and provide them with memories that will last a lifetime.

But if we do want to stay in business we do have to make money at it to survive support our families, and maintain our vessels and gear.

Not all charter operations here are owned, managed or operated by Americans, but the better ones are (IMO). Americans run/ managed or operated charter vessels have a bit better understanding of the standards and expectations of American tourists, & strive harder to build reputations and relationships based on customer service, quality, and performance.

Of the boats moored out in herredurra bay, only 1 is American owned and operated (Shotgun, a 43’),out of probably more than 20 or 30 of various sizes from 21 to 50 ft.

There may be a couple that are owned by Americans but not operated by any.

There are a handful of decent value Costa Rican owned operated vessels out there.

Most ,but not all, charter boats in the Los Suenos Marina are owned and managed by Americans, but most of them are operated Costa Rican employees.

There are only 7 American Captain owner -operators in Los Suenos Marina out of about 40 legal charterboats.

(Miss Behavin, Hoo’s your Daddy, Dreamwork, Tijereta, Sailfish, Barnacle, and myself on EPIC.)

the 35 or so others are not operated day to day by US captains or crew.

But any boat in the marina will likely be a much more professional operation compared to a boat left on a mooring in the bay in terms of Vessel, crew, fishing tackle, electronics, safety gear, cleanliness, Maintenance of engines and all other systems., food quality and quantity or drinks provided., and the distance they are willing to run to find fish (fuel). So of course they will cost more, but as in most cases, you get what you pay for.

If you don’t mind fishing with crews that don’t speak good English, that don’t want to burn the fuel and run to 30 miles offshore to the best bite on a poorly maintained boats, re using old bait, skimping on food, drinks and everything else with mis- matched tackle with old line that never get changed, there are plenty of low cost boats that can save a bunch of money, but I would not expect stellar results.

As the title of the thread Referred to “Marlin Fishing in October” if marlin is your primary target, fortunately October is a historically good consistent month for them.

October – Early December, and May- July are some of the best months for targeting Blue, Stripes, and a rare black marlin. It is common to see 1 or 2 a day while trolling offshore these months, and if you find something floating, like a tree or FAD, loaded with bait (bonitos and small yellowfins) it may be possible to have several shots by live baiting with the small tunas/ bonitos around it.

Sailfish are also pretty common; we catch at least a couple pretty much every day of the year even though peak season is Dec- April.

Yellowfin tuna season runs May- October so there still should be some hanging around and the Mahi- Mahi (dorado, dolphinfish) begin showing up in good numbers during October. Good luck with your trip and tight lines!

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6. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

I fished with the Good Day Fishing Team out of Los Suenos......these guys were top notch!! August 2013,7 guys, 5 sails, 2 tuna!!!! They work hard and are great at what they do. The price for the boat $1200 full day plus tip!!! Very worth it!!!!!

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7. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

Glenn, did you reserve a boat? I am going to be in Los Suenos fishing with two buddies on Oct. 1, 2 and 3. We could take you or another person with us if you wanted to join us. We haven't reserved a boat yet, but will next week. looking at Hoos Your Daddy, and a couple others. If you went with us, that would cut your cost.

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8. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

I suggest http://oceanadventurescr.com/ Capt Thomas is great out of Los Suenos

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9. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

Try to deal with owner operators…avoid people chartering boats from a bar…and of course if you can see the boats first then pay…October is not a busy time of the year…you can shop around once you are here…some pushy people from a penthouse will try to pressure you to send money…do not worry…that kind of captains are the worst…deal with pros only!


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10. Re: Deep sea Marlin Fishing in Jaco Beach los Suenos , who?

I have been going out with the same guys for 6 yrs, always a great time, price has always been about the same 28 ft full day 550.00 to 600.00. going down Oct 12 tru 15.