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9 days in SA? enough?

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Bangalore
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9 days in SA? enough?

Hi can someone tell me if i am missing something in my itinary.

Jo'berg -> Pretoria-> Kruger -> Port Elizabeth...drive to Cape town ( a days visit to krysna and Oudtshoorn.

I will be in Jo'berg for 2 days and driving the third day to Kruger .. i would like to know if it is safe to drive on our own? and how long will it take?

In kruger ( any places in mind?) for a group of 9, to see the Big 5?

We will be in kruger for 3 days..is it enough?

The we will be taking a flight from kruger to port elizebeth. Upon our arrival in port elizabeth and spending a night there, the next day we shall be driving on the garden route and visiting Krysna and Oudtshoorn. and head towards Cape town. We will be in cape town for 3 dyas.

Is this enough? would i have seen most of SA?

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1. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Hello there

9 days in South Africa is really not enough but if time is the issue then we would suggest the following:

On your arrival in Johannesburg you can leave immediately for the Kruger National Park. This gives you 2 additional days to explore (see further on). This is assuming that your flight arrives fairly early in the morning. The drive to Kruger is approx. 5 hours and it is safe enough to drive.

As for accommodation in the Kruger - you have the choice of SANParks accommodation, or alternatively there are a number of excellent private game reserves from which to choose. 3 nights in Kruger is more than enough.

We assume that the flight from Kruger to Port Elizabeth will be in the middle of the day and you will therefore arrive in PLZ late in the afternoon. You can leave PLZ immediately and start your tip along the Garden Route, possibly spending your first night in Tsitsikama. Alternatively proceed immediately to Knysna - the ideal hub from which to explore the Garden Route. You should spend at least 2 nights in Knysna before moving along to Cape Town. The drive from Knysna to Cape Town should take approx. 5 hours, depending on which route you take.

Hopefully this will assist you with further planning.

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2. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Hey! Nine months wouldn't be enough...

But I understand your dilemma. I have been in a similar situation. I would spend less time in Johannesburg, as the city life is pretty much the same all over the world. I would perhaps opt for a visit to Gold Reef City.

I would sleep over in Dullstroom on my way to the Kruger. Plenty of accommodation in a real SA town.

If the big 5 is what you are after in the Kruger, I would concentrate on Lower Sabie (1 night with access from the south via Crocodile Bridge rest camp, i.e. stay on the N4 up the Croc Bridge) and Satara (2 nights). Most elusive of the big 5 is the leopard and Satara (and the road between Lower Sabie & Satara is most productive in terms of leopard. The rest of the big 5 is almost gauaranteed.

In Port Elizabeth, stay close to the Board Walk / Casino area and make sure to take a stroll through Happy Valley at the Humewood beach. On your way to Cape Town, visit an ostrich farm and the Cango caves in Oudshoorn.

And in Cape Town, visit the Oceanarium and take the cable car to the top of Table Mountain.

And ENJOY!!

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3. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

thank you so much for the info, we are planning on the garden route, after we arrive in Port elizabeth, we would be spending a night in PE, and in the morning driving to Tsitsikama, where all of us are keen on the bungy jump, and we proceed to knysna. From knysna, we were planning to pass by outdshorn, to see the ostrich farm before we head to cape town,

can you please tell me, if i head to oudtshorn, how long would my drive be, and if i miss it, as you mentioned its 5 hours, can you please let me know which route takes 5 hrs,

thank you for our reply, for some reason i never got an notification, that there was a reply to my post, but while i was searching for more info, and decided to view the forum, i just happened to notice the 2 replies.

Bangalore
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4. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Hi John,

than you so much for the info. as mentioned in my prev post, we are doing to the garden route as well, if you have any ideas or thoughts on the same, please let me know.

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5. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Knysna-Oudtshoorn-Cape Town will take about 7 hours, allowing for stops. After Oudtshoorn take R62 to Montagu & then head for Robertson-Villiersdorp-Franschoek-Stellenbosch-Cape Town. It's a very beautiful drive & you won't encounter much traffic. You will pass through the spectacular scenery of the winelands.

You'll see loads of ostrich driving that route so you may not need to visit an actual farm.

Have a wonderful trip in this fantastic country. We'll be landing in Cape Town one week today, BA willing..............yippee! :-)

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6. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

South Africa is a huge country and getting between those places will take up a lot of time. Like driving from Joburg airport to Kruger will use up 5-6 hours, and so will flying from Kruger to PE when you consider the time needed to get to the airport & wait for the flights. I think you need to factor in traveling time when considering this itinerary - make sure you have enough time before you commit to booking places.

My 2 cents:

Definitely skip Joburg as other have said.

3 nights in Kruger should be enough to see a lot of game.

You need an absolute MINIMUM of 3 full days in Cape Town or you wont see the sights.

PE is also skipable - I would suggest rather flying to George but I see you want to do the bungee so PE does make sense to prevent you backtracking. Just limit your time there and head straight to Tstitikama.

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7. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Hi Ipsitha

I have too many ideas for your available days! Lol! Maybe if you can give me a hint as to where you guys want to sleep over between Port Elizabeth (PE) and Cape Town, I may be able to assist better.

PE to Cape Town is more than 800 km, so I assume you will sleep over in the Southern Cape? Knysna or Oudtshoorn? Just make sure the bungy jumping is still on. When I went passed Bloukrans Bridge 4 weeks ago everything looked very silent to me...

PE to Knysna (on the N2) is roughly 3 hours driving (although you can do it in 2.5 hours), but that would be with NO stops. You will spend at least 2 hours at Bloukrans for Bungy jumping. Knysna to Oudthoorn (N2 and N9/N12) will take you roughly 1.5 hours with no stopping and Oudshoorn to Cape Town (R62) roughly 5 hours with no stopping.

Here's my personal preference:

PE to Jeffreys Bay(JB) (N2) - don't stop.

Go passed JB unless you are a surfer. JB is SA's surfing capital.

Stop at Bloukrans for your bungy.

Between Bloukrans and Stormsriver (N2) there is the Storms River Adventures on the left side (Huge building with bright orange roof) you cannot miss it. Maybe just pop in to see what's on offer.

Stop at Total Village just after crossing Storms River for snags & fuel & view.

There is a big tree about 5 km west of the last stop. Maybe give this one a miss (see later).

If you are pressed for time, go passed the Storms River section of the Tsitsikamma National Park. (I love this place!)

At the toll gate, take the off-ramp left & travel via Nature's Valley. (Just a little detour from the N2)

Where you get back onto the N2, there is a snake park and monkey land on the left (just passed the Crags) - some folk enjoy these. I don't.

Enjoy the sea view through Plettenberg Bay.

Between Plett and Knysna, there are plenty to see. Keep your eyes open for what you like. (THere is a wolf sanctury, a touch elephant place, a bird sanctuary to name some.)

You can stop at the Garden of Eden to check a giant Outeniqua Yellowwood tree. (Right hand side of road).

And then you are in Knysna. I'd go to the heads for a bite. Or take a stroll on the water front.

Yet, I would still aim for Oudshoorn to sleep there. Oudshoorn perhaps a little more typical SA town. Knyana perhaps more vibrant and cosmipolitan.

Drive slowly through Wilderness and on the top of the hill on the western side of Wilderness stop at the Dolphins lookout point for spectacular views.

Just passed the Victoria Bay turn-off, watch out for Rademacher's - an interesting place.

There are SO much more. What else...?

ENJOY!!

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8. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Such great advice in the prvious posts....just a quick note, if you are staying only for 3 days in Kruger don't move from camp to camp, just stay at Lower Sabie. We stayed 6 nights in Kruger last Aug and the 4N at LS were the best. Its the most in-demand camp in Kruger, so if you haven't done so already, make a quick provisional resveration of any available accommodation through the sanparks website - lots of info on accommodation types, facilities, rates etc. Almost all accomodation will be pre booked by now with tentative reservations but they become free a month before. Check exactly one month prior to the date you want to book to find out the different types of accommodation that have become available at LS. I did it over the phone as places get booked within seconds of becoming available. Keep your eye on the availability calendar exactly a month before and you should get the type of accommodation you want. They also do great sunset drives - worth the cost and with 9 of you it will almost be a private game drive! At Lower Sabie, I recommend the perimeter bungalows or try the bigger chalets since you have a large group. The Kruger roads are great for self drives. Also you don't really need to buy your groceries before, the store at Lower sabie is quite well stocked and their restaurant is not too bad either. Overnight in JNB and at first light, drive to Kruger. I would skip PE (the most boring place I visited in SA) I'm sure there are lots of other places to bungy jump.

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9. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Just a correction on my last post:

The Bloukrans Bungy is between Storms River and the Toll gate (Nature's Valley turn-off). Not between JB and Storms River as my post suggests.

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10. Re: 9 days in SA? enough?

Hi there

If i understand this correctly, you have 9days in South Africa and you want to do: Joburg, Pretoria, Kruger National Park, Port Elizabeth, Garden Route and then Cape Town?

Regards

Hank - Owner - Ulungele Tours