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Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

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Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

Hi, I'm planning on a trip to Belek in late March with my other half, but we've never been before and are not sure where to go.

We both want a good choice of restaurants and bars in our hotel, preferably all-inclusive, and to be able to lay out on the beach or on a pontoon on the sea.

He wants to play golf, so we were thinking about a golf resort, but it seems a lot of the nicer hotels are right by the golf clubs and have deals there anyway - is this a good idea or is it difficult to get to the clubs and more expensive to play?

We also ideally want to have as little disturbance and annoyance from noisy kids' clubs and rude, arrogant Russians as possible, as these were the only factors that we hated on our previous similar trip to Sharm!

Anyone got any good ideas of places to stay?

Also good companies to book with as we are trying not to spend too much?

Cheers for your help!

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1. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

As you want to go AI,I dont think you can avoid the Russians as they seem to go to all the AI hotels.

Thats why I am going HB to Turkey!

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2. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

We go to Belek so my hubby and son can play golf together (I am a non golfer) and out of the hotels we have been to so far the last one had the least of Russian guests. It was the Sirene Golf and Wellness Resort.

You cannot book this hotel with any of the Major Tour Operators only with specialist Golf Holiday Operators,we booked through Billgoff they do have a website, but I phoned them as I like to speak to someone and get my queries answered there and then.Very helpful and everything went smoothly.

Booking a hotel affiliated with a golf course you do get cheaper green fees and free transfers to the course.At the Sirene you have the pleasure of two golf courses,the Sultan and the Pasha.

Hope this helps,

Angie.

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3. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

Thanks for the advice!

Seeing as I'm likely to be a golf widow for most of the trip, I definitely need somewhere I can relax by the pool or beach, or in the spa, without the hassle and irritation caused by leering or rude men who won't leave the ladies alone! (Or let them get to the bar!)

Sharm was a nightmare for that, but I'm hoping that Turkey won't be quite so bad - the hotels look really nice so it's difficult to choose between them.

The other half will be happy with golf pretty much anywhere, but somewhere with good restaurants and nice bars, even in the low season, will keep us both happy in the evenings.

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4. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

I'm aware you asked for an all inclusive but have you considered a private villa with pool, there are plenty of options to choose from advertised on various websites.

This way you have the peace and quiet plus the opportunity to visit the various restaurants around the area.

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5. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

Sorry for butting in on the thread but,with respect, İ feel İ have to say something.

There are several negative comments on here about Russian visitors.İ am aware that some of them do behave in an appalling manner,especially at meal times etc and the same accusation has been leveled previously at Polish visitors too.But this is rather a sweeping generalisation don't you think?

We Brits also have an appalling reputation abroad for bad behaviour i.e. drunken,loutish,boorish chav behaviour and not always just by youngsters either.

There are many Russian TA forum members who will İ am sure feel upset at these comments.

İn Bodrum İ came into contact with people of many nationalities and really did find good and bad in all-including Russian!

İt wouldn't be very nice for someone to put a post up asking "Where can İ go that isn't full of British drunks?".

Private views of this nature about various nationalities can always be exchanged in a private PM but it would be better not to do so on an international forum.

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6. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

Fair point, but this is a British website, so is aimed at British travellers!

I'm also not a chav or British drunk, and hate them too, but tend to travel to places that are a little more likely to be out of the average chav's price range, so don't need to ask where to go to avoid them!

I've also had a previous holiday ruined by a number of rude, obnoxious, pervy and generally revolting Russian men, (the women are generally ok)so don't feel bad for asking where is good to go to avoid them. Generalisations are there for a reason - they're generally right!

Anyone else have any more advice about where to go?

I'm currently looking at the Xanadu, as the Serenity seems to be very highly priced at the moment.

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7. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

Dino- you are well out of order in stating "this is a British website, so is aimed at British travellers"

This is a world wide site, OK you may have entered it with the .co.uk address, but you get the same pages on the .com version.

Do you realise how rude and arrogant your post may appear to others, there is a warning at the edge of the reply section that says

Post carefully! Posts cannot be edited once they are submitted.

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8. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

Sorry can't advise where to go but maybe where not to go. Rixos seemed mainly occupied by Russian guests, whough its spa and Turkish bath is wonderful. Not trying to generalize, only based on 3 days experience, there were some Russian families that made a lot of noise in the restaurant and reserved 3 times the seat they needed and block booked the a la carte restaurants for the week. Also lots of Russian businessmen with their young, ahem, wives with not more than a thong on around the pool and beach (come to think of it this may not be such a negative point from a male perspective, lol) and shouting around to receive their champagnes or cognac or cigar or whatever. Though the hotel is great with good amenities, I would not ever consider going there again, was there for a golf event organized from Istanbul.

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9. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

I don't think wanting to avoid repeating a bad experience is arrogant at all actually!

Plenty of people report on this website and forum that they have had trouble with Russian guests in hotels, so it's not just me.

I completely agree that British yobs and chavs are just as much of pain in the butt around the world, in fact probably more so, but I don't go to places where they are usually a problem so I don't have much to complain about there.

However, having been felt-up, pushed around, sworn at and generally made to feel incredibly uncomfortable by a number of Russian men while trying to relax on my previous all-inclusive sunshine holiday, I don't want it to happen again. I don't approve of people who are rude and selfish to resort staff and other visitors, and that is what I have experienced. I didn't behave in any manner to incite that sort of rudeness, so it was not nice.

I think that's fair enough.

By the way, I know and am friends with a lot of Russian and Eastern European people in London, and they don't behave like that here, so it's clearly a holiday thing. In recent years the Russian visitor numbers have increased dramatically in places like Turkey and Egypt, so they have become more noticeable. It's a stereotype that happens to be true in a lot of cases. That is all.

It was a minor part of my forum post and I don't think it warrants the personal attack I have received for it. Perhaps my post was not the inappropriate one.

I am well aware this is a forum that is visited by international web-surfers, but accessing it from the UK website does tend to encourage more British posters. Hence most of the people posting on here are located in UK or are British ex-pats. That is why their advice is useful to other Brits wanting the same things!

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10. Re: Help! Best hotel for golf, relaxing and least Russians?

We totally agree with your comments on Eastern Europeans but think the problem is more a cultural one on their part, problem is, if you go somewhere that is multi national the big spenders tend to get away with most things.We have had years of being brassed of at rhe Germans, they now look like angels. If you dont want any grief a sandals type holiday would be the best option or one from thomson that is couples only. Anyway just try to ignore and enjoy your holiday.