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Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

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Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

If one arrives at the Ngorongoro Crater at/after dusk, goes down into the crater first thing next morning and does not stay there overnight after that, is any additional value provided by the more expensive rim lodgings whose main selling point is the crater views as compared to the lodgings without the crater veiws? What can one see of the crater from the rim once it's dark?

Also, is the crater visible from the rim road, i.e., if I were to go for a walk along the road in daylight, can I see the crater? I assume there are no lookout points like on the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. :)

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1. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

There is actually a look out point. IMO the best view of the crater is from the patio of the Wildlife Lodge (and that is not one of the expensive lodges). It was originally a government lodge, so they got the pick of locations, and they choose wisely.

I don't think I would advise walking around the rim, especially unattended. Read the post today about the person who was trampled by an elephant when he was walking. There is always an abundance of animals at the crater, especially cats and hyenas, and there are a lot of turned out old bulls there. As they say in your home state, Don't mess with them.

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2. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

In the scenario you create, then use the a lodging for proximity to the gate in the morning rather than views - though that doesn't mean less expensive. As mentioned, there is a lookout that pretty much every vehicle stops at. It might not be as extensive as a patio view, but it gives a great overall view.

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If you want to be down on crater floor first in the morning, best to stay on the rim nt prior. You will get a good view from Sopa or Lemala for the sunset at dusk. No entry into the Crater area once the gates close by 6-6:30pm when there is still some light.

And as mentioned, if you do have to drive around rim in the morning, there is a lookout point.

I sure wouldn't be walking around the rim unescorted, even the cute Impala are rather strong and could easily knock someone over. Nor would I want to run into an hyena.

If you stay outside the crater, in Karatu... there is the earlier wakeup for drive to Crater gate, time for paperwork to get in, then to the descent road.

There are some properties on the rim that are as low as those outside in Karatu and vice versa.

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4. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

With your scenario I might suggest Rhino Lodge. It is on the rim and handy but no view. It is also reasonably priced.

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5. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

Thank you all.

Where I had an opinion/preference based on the input I received and what I read here on TA, I had specified the lodging options that would work for my situation and itinerary. I am scheduled to arrive at the crater late in the day and am booked at the Rhino Lodge. Other (pricier) crater-view lodgings were recommended by the TOs initially till I made my own requests. I am doing a non-camping solo safari, so some of these things make significant difference to the cost. At the same time, I wanted to make sure that I am not saving money for the "wrong" things (i.e. missing out on something worthwhile) even as I spend all this time and money otherwise. But if it is dark out while I am at the lodge, what do I care if there are views or not from the room/lodge?

Thanks also for the heads up about the various animals on the crater rim. I am not planning on doing any solo outings and wouldn't do anything without asking the guide about the suitability of any activity at any place, including counting a friendly lion's teeth or checking tire pressure on the safari, or jumping from a cliff on Kili to measure its height. I have this vision of the place that I am sure is totally wrong. I am always conflicted about knowing/seeing (via photos, videos, etc.) too much of a place before experiencing it personally so as to not remove all the element of mystery/surprise from the experience.

Talking of costs, I am quite surprised by the prices some people have been quoted for their 3-4 day safaris that are not camping safaris. I am paying several *times* that amount for my 6D/5N safari during non-prime season (Oct). I specified to every TO that I contacted that I am not looking for anything lux and to get me the simplest things they can find. Even if I deduct the cost of the one-way Serengeti flight, considering that even the lowest quotes I got were higher by a non-trivial factor, I am wondering how people are given such low quotes (under $200 a day) and how our experiences would differ.

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6. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

Could the difference in costs be because you are going solo?

I know it's only me and my DH going and the costs jump from what it will be pp vs if there were 4 in our party.

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7. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

No, most TOs provided the projected cost for 2 or 4 in the group. It gets a lot lower with the addition of one more person, but then the drop is not as drastic with further additions to the group.

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8. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

If you are going solo and not doing basic camping, you are definitely paying a single supplement surcharge which ends up bringing the cost quite a bit.

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9. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

Yes, you are paying a single supplement (quite a bit). Plus, you are paying for the whole guide and car and fuel by yourself. The daily cost for guide and car and fuel is the same no matter how many people are going. So, $250ppd can be divided by one person, 2 people, 3 people, etc. Cost go down with each person (considerably) up to about 5 or 6 then another car gets added and starts over. So, one verses 2 people will be $150-250 per person per day difference. Will average maybe $300 per person per day verses $500 per person per day for "mid range" (what ever that term means).

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10. Re: Views from Crater Rim Lodgings

Actually, I am not comparing my solo safari quotes with quotes per person for people going in groups. I do understand that solo safaris would cost a lot due to the fixed costs of a safari. I was comparing the price per person quoted to me for a hypothetical 2 or 4 person group for my itinerary with the price per person I've seen posted here by people going in 2-4 pax groups. The hypothetical multi-person prices were quoted to me by the TOs in addition to the solo quotes.

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