I already knew that being a DE can be very unpleasant at times (getting hateful, even threatening emails,etc) from talking to former DEs. Now, after reading Tourmaline's recent post, I know that it's a lot more work than I realized. So I'd like to go on record thanking Tourmaline and Sunnyvaca for the time they spent as DEs . And of course I want to thank bean3 for all the wonderful work she does for all of us here on the forum. She's informed, knowledgeable and experienced- plus being very nice and always helpful. Thanks for all you do, bean3.