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Blackjack observation: Vegas vs not Vegas

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Blackjack observation: Vegas vs not Vegas

We live in an area where there are a lot of Indian casinos and I have noticed that the skills of the average Blackjack player at these tables are much higher than those at your average (low limit $5/10 min) table in Vegas. Probably 80% of the players at these Indian casino tables have a good understanding of Blackjack strategy, whereas my experience shows that number at closer to 25% at the Vegas tables.

Anyone else notice this? Any theories as to why? My only theory is that the local players are (much like myself) at the tables a lot (well, not a lot, but probably too much) and those in Vegas are just the occasional gambler who go to Vegas once or twice a year and just want to try it out.

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Baxtered -

I have observed the same; players splitting 10's, staying on 14 or 15 with a dealer face card up, of course the casinos don't mind, just more profits for them. The only solution is to go to a higher limit table.

If the rube seems logically minded and truly is ignorant of proper play I suggest in a friendly way that pocket bj strategy cards are available in most casino gift shops.

Of course there are the drunks, the fools and the self centered who have discovered the world revolves around them.

I NEVER play on a bj table that pays 6/5 for a bj. A complete ripoff, the table odds already favor the house.

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Lots of people come to Vegas for activities that have nothing to do with gambling. Thus, they might try out a game or two but not be there to play seriously. How many people go to your local Indian casino for any other reason than to gamble?

My area is a little different because the Indian casinos in Connecticut are mega-casinos that are as big as anything in Vegas and their table limits are on the higher end. But they draw people for shows and sporting events that aren't experienced gamblers.

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I think it's because of availability of tables, and table limits.

I have

1. never walked into an indian casino that offered 5.00 tables.

and

2. never seen an empty table at an indian casino.

now, I havn't been to all of them, it's just an observation of my experience.

I think the availability of space at tables in Las Vegas, coupled with low limits, sheds any inhabitions new players may have, making people who have never played more willing to give it a try.

Just my opinion.

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I personally see a higher percentage of skilled players at southern Indiana riverboats than I do on the strip in Las Vegas. It's been my experience that MGM attracts some really BAD players for reasons already mentioned. MGM also attracts a lot of skilled players because of great rules.

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i agree with the river boat gambler being more serious, i think the lv gambler is more of a true novice/rookie and it's more of a " i gambled in las vegas thing " i go to both places and trully prefer vegas over the boat.. the only indian casino i went to was in cheroke nc and the game was ran by a computer which i thought was not good.

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Baxtered, I've thought about this myself. I do not play Indian casinos but have lots of experience in locals joints and DT. My theory is similar to Strattons take. Players who are regular gamblers vs. recreational once or twice a year on vacation types. I find better players in off strip dives than even higher limit good rules casino games. My long standing concern is the Vegas games will cater more and more to the drunk frat boy club scene gambler and the good rules will continue to degenerate.

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7. Re: Blackjack observation: Vegas vs not Vegas

Well said underpar!

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underpar is right, it is about time that Vegas catered to the embittered degenerate gamblers like us who keep the place going :)

Kidding aside, I am hopeful that the profusion of websites about blackjack will encourage even recreational players and "fratboys" to learn enough about the game to avoid tables with bad rules. You can sepnd ten minutes reading the wizardofodds page on blackjack and learn enough not to get ripped off.

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9. Re: Blackjack observation: Vegas vs not Vegas

Another well said stratton.

Boston
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10. Re: Blackjack observation: Vegas vs not Vegas

If not well spelled...."sepnd", indeed...

*shamefaced*