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Players cards - is it plausible they could influence........

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Players cards - is it plausible they could influence........

The game, as in the result? They track your total spend only? Is the technology there that they could track your playing habits and adjust the machines behaviour accordingly?

For example, if you are chasing bonuses, or likely to bet a certain amount and then follow it up with a further amount prior to quitting, can they track these behaviours? I became very suspicious of my players cards towards the end and stopped using them. Mind you, I did not know about the possibility of getting room charges comped or I may have continued to take my chances!

Obviously shop loyalty cards are able to tailor discount coupons to the products you buy... I know these things are possible, but I'm thinking on this scale it would be a massive scandal if it were in place.

No big drama, just curious!

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Technically, it's absolutely possible. But I don't believe any property would be stupid enough to do something like this.

Irvine, California
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Players cards have no influence over the outcome of any play on any machine. They operate totally independently of the RNG which determines the result of any bet.

Players cards simply log your coin-in and points accrued as a result of that. Nothing more.

But yes. It could no doubt be plausible if somebody set their mind to doing it.

Edited: 10 June 2012, 21:49
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>> Players cards have no influence over the outcome of any play on any machine. They operate totally independently of the RNG which determines the result of any bet. Players cards simply log your coin-in and points accrued as a result of that. Nothing more.

How do we know that? There's no reason you couldn't build a slot machines that couldn't do something like allow new players to win more and get hooked. That would probably violate some Nevada law, but could easily be done in a less regulated world.

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As to tracking certain behaviors, such as game & denomination preferences, time on device, etc. I would think that this is gathered because the information is there to be had. Perhaps a deviation from your normal bet amount would catch their attention in the same manner that it does at a blackjack table. Not sure if it's practiced but it certainly is possible. Once you are logged into any casino's system by inserting your player's card, your host, slot attendant or anyone else with access knows where you are at as well as the denomination & game that you are on. My host uses that info all of the time to locate his players on the casino floor.

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Zeke, you are right that slot machines COULD easily be designed to paly with your head, but the Gaming Commission would hear of it sooner or later, and licenses would be terminated, people would go to jail (or on a one-way visit to the desert), massive lawsuits would be filed.

I don't think the casinos would risk it.

But, I also talk to slot machines, chalk pentagrams on the carpet in front of slot machines, set forth candles and incense, engage in ritual sacrifice of chickens and goats before the machine of my choice and otherwise try to invoke the Gods of the slots.

I also tried to feed a blessed Host into a slot machine, but i could not get either the bill machine or the player's card reader to take the host.

So maybe I'm not the best one to give an opinion!!!!

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LOL Mike! A blessed Host is never acceptable to the slot machine gods. Only another twenty dollar bill.

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The Nevada Gaming Commission strictly regulates all slot machines in the state to be sure that the Random Number Generator is truly random.

I believe the technology is out there to manipulate the machines during play (especially server based slot systems) based on the player. This may or may not be happening in non-regulated Indian Casinos.

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Just to let you know how much they know, last weekend at T.I. my DH left his players card in a machine. The next morning he went to the players club to get a new one. The lady was able to look up on her computer exactly which machine he left it in. She told him the machine number and location, sure enough it was there.

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Good theory.

Also something to think about is video poker.

The machine knows what cards you saved so does it change the draw cards so it results in the machines favor?

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Good theory.

Also something to think about is video poker.

The machine knows what cards you saved so does it change the draw cards so it results in the machines favor?

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Yes, but being able to save some sort of database of your combinations on a cheap card wont be very fast, and there isn't any memory. They'd have to link up via the machine's link of databases, if those exist.

I always thought about the card in the machine influencing the slot machine, but I don't play enough to really care.