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Hey Vegas Man:

Hi Joe,

My Hubby and I want to learn to play craps, but I am highly intimidated by playing with all of those people around when I do not know what I am doing!!! :-) Is there a time of day (probably early AM?) or particular casino where it is not very busy or dealers are patient and friendly? Minnesota casino's do not have craps. Maybe there is a DVD or website out there that you are aware of?

Thanks again for your wealth of knowledge!! you are a great blessing to of us who have found this forum!

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1. Re: Hey Vegas Man:

Dawn,

I hope you are going to be in Vegas in the middle of the Week. Come on down to the Stardust, we have lessons M-F 10a-6p and one of our friendly teachers Bobby, Barbara or whoever is subbing that day will be glad to teach you.

We start a class when someone shows an interest and can draw crowds of up to 20 people wanting to learn. So, start the class or join in the middle. The teachers will repeat some things so the newcomers can catch up. Please wait for the teacher to ask for questions.

If you come on the weekend we have pamphlets you can red and then ask questions if the dealer of floor supervisor can answer your questions.

Joe

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2. Re: Hey Vegas Man:

That is awesome Joe - I am arriving Sunday 4/3. We will be in Vegas thru Wednesday, so we will be sure to check it out! We will be happy to buy you a beer or a coffee when we find you!

Do you happen to know if Wayne is playing that week or the show prices?

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Dawn,

Yes Wayne will be performing those nights. Tickets are $54.95. I, however, will not be in Vegas. At least I hope I won't be. My wife and I are planning to take our 3rd Honeymoon that week. We should be in Cozumel Mexico March 30-April 6.

Joe

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4. Re: Hey Vegas Man:

Vegasman,

Cozumel is the best. make sure you check out Chakunab(not sure I spelled that correctly). It has the best snorkling in the world in my opinion. It's like diving in a fish tank.

Also check out this bar called coconuts, outof the main town that you will not regret. It's incredible and romantic.

On the craps issue, you can also buy one of those little gambling kits at most stores these days. They come with little roullete wheel, and craps table. You can practice on that as well.

Just a thought

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5. Re: Hey Vegas Man:

Wolf,

Thanks for the advice. We stayed in Playa Del Carmen our last trip (Dec 04) and spent so much time on the Ferry going to Cozumel for dive trips. We decided just to stay in Cozumel this time. The hotel we're staying at has a reef yards away and has easy access into the water. Looking forward to taking lots of pictures with my new camera and strobe.

First vacation where I got to snorkel was to the Caymans (July 04). Loved that too. They are still recovering from Hurricane Ivan. Will go back there again someday.

Joe

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6. Re: Hey Vegas Man:

I stayed at a hotel that had a reef on the beach as well. I believe it was the Intercontinental Hotel. Great place, but still go to Chankunab..trust me on this one.

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Craps is a game played with 2 dice and from 1-16 players on a table. Everyone takes turns being the shooter. This is the person who rolls the dice.

The game begins with everyone placing their bets on either the "Pass" or "Don���t Pass" lines. These bets can be made using chips or cash. On the first roll of the Dice (The Come out roll) the "Pass Line" wins if either a 7 or an 11 is rolled. The "Don���t Pass" line loses on a 7 or 11. The "Pass Line" loses on the first roll if a 2, 3 or 12 is rolled. And the "Don���t Pass" line wins on a 2 or 3 and the 12 is a push (neither a winner or a loser). 12 is called the Casino���s number.

The first roll of the dice is called the "Come out roll" as we are either coming out with a new shooter, or the same shooter is trying to come out on a new point. It is during the come out roll that most players will make most of their "Proposition bets" These are the best that are placed on the confusing box in the center of the table.

You will hear players call out "$2 C & E", "$10 World", "$4 Horn" "$5 Horn high Yo (Or Aces, Ace/Deuce or 12)" A C& E is a abet that the next roll of the dice will either be an 11 or one of the Craps number. A world or whirl (Also correct term) says that the next roll will be a 2, 3, 7, 11 or 12. Horn bets that the next roll will be a 2, 3, 11 or 12 (Payouts are different than for a C & E). Horn high Yo is the Horn with an extra $1 or unit on the 11, 2, 3 or 2, all depends on what the player chooses to bet.

If any other number is rolled 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 this is now "The Point". Once the point has been established the players will now begin to make all their other bets. You can bet for or against any of the numbers being rolled. Most people bet that a number will be rolled as this bets pays more than the amount bet.

Say we have a point of 6, you will hear players calling out "52 across", "32 inside" "60 Outside", "16 even" or "Hards 5 and 1 two ways". All Greek to a new player. Let���s take a look at what these mean.

52 across: This player wants to bet $52 on all the number but the 6. They will have $10 bet on each of the outside numbers 4, 5, 9 and 10 and $12 on the 8.

32 inside: This player wants to bet $32 on all the inside number but the 6. They will have $10 bet on both the 5 and 9 and $12 on the 8.

60 outside: They will have $15 bet on each of the outside numbers 4, 5, 9 and 10.

16 even: They will have $5 bet on each of the even outside numbers and 10 and $6 on the 8.

Hards 5 and 1 two ways. This person wants to bet the Hardways (That the next time the 4, 6, 8 or 10 rolls it will be a pair) $5 for themselves and $1 for the dealers.

You will see players putting additional bets behind their "Pass Line" bets or next to their "Don���t Pass" bets. This is called "Taking or laying odds" Taking odds means you think the shooter will make their point (In this example roll the 6 before rolling a 7). If the shooter makes a point of 6 or 8 players receive even money on the "Pass Line" and get $6 for every $5 bet on their odds. All bets on the "Don���t Pass" line lose. If the shooter 7���s out instead of making the 6 the "Pass Line" bets along with the additional odds bets lose and the "Don���t Pass" bets and their lays will get paid. The lays get paid $5 for every $6 bet and the original "Don���t Pass" bet gets paid even money.

While the shooter is trying to make his/her point, bets placed on the other numbers "Place bets" will be paid as those numbers roll. These bets are paid as follows: On the 4 and 10 every $5 bet returns $9. On the 5 and 9 every $5 returns $7 and on the 6 and 8 every $6 bet returns $7.

Buy bets are bets on the 4 and 10 that instead of paying 9:5 get paid 2:1. At some casinos these bets are automatically done for the player when the bet reaches a certain $$ level. At the Stardust we do this at $10. At some casinos it is not automatic as you must pay the "Vig" or commission before the number rolls. It is best for the player when they do not have to pay this until after the number rolls. For example: You are betting $20 on the 4 and must pay the "Vig" in advance, you will pay $21 for this $20 bet. The "Vig" is 5% of the bet. When the 4 does roll you will receive $39 $40 for the $20 bet minus $1 "Vig" to keep your bet up. If you are playing where they do not charge the "Vig" up front, you bet $20 and get $39 when the 4 does roll. $40 minus $1 "Vig".

Other craps terms:

Press: This means the player wants to double their existing bet. It is best to call this out before the dealer has already paid you. Players get paid in turn. If you are the first person to get paid, you are standing closest to the dealer with the stick that calls out the numbers. Please be ready to decide what you are going to do with each bet when the Stickman calls out the number rolled. If you need more time in deciding, you are better off standing closer to the dealer that is paying off the bets. This dealer is called a Base Dealer.

Parlay: This is from the French, meaning "No change, no chance" This is what a player calls when they want no money back on a bet. Instead they want to let the whole bet ride, hoping to win a ton the next time this number rolls.

Down: This is what a player says when they want their bet returned along with the payoff from that bet.

Off: You use this when you want to turn your bets off for a roll or two. Your bets like yourself are now on vacation. They can not win or lose.

On: You use this when you want your bets to work again. Or when you want to have your bets working on the "Come out roll".

Toke: A tip given to the dealers, can be as a bet made, or money/chips handed in for the dealers.

George: A player that tokes a lot.

Stiff: A player that doesn���t toke.

Hope this helps,

Joe

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8. Re: Hey Vegas Man:

Thanks for the instructions - I copied it to study. Sorry to hear you will not be in Vegas, hope you have a blast on your trip!