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Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

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Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

We just got back from Vegas. Got some good wins on the slots as did a lot of people we saw playing. Why do We NEVER see this happen here in Winnipeg? Is our government here in Canada being allowed to set these same brand of machines so no one hardly ever wins? As if we don't pay enough taxes in the Great White North.

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1. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

Manitoba Lotteries slots payout at 92%.

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2. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

I find that very hard to believe, Luv. Do you work for Manitoba lotteries?

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3. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

Colorado casinos don't pay as well as Vegas. Also, in Colorado, it is legal to only allow a royal flush after a set no.of hands. This is not the case in Vegas. If the machine has just hit a royal flush the randomness (word?) does not change, still a chance to hit another royal on the machine in the near future if that what happens.

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4. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

Because Manitoba Lotteries is a publicly owned Crown Corporation their financial statements are public record and can be found in their annual reports.

manitobalotteries.com/about/reports-and-info…

If you look at page 15 of the most recent one, you'll see that the payout is 92.9%. First Nations Casinos payout at 90%.

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5. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

Oh, I thought the theory was that the slot machines would read where the player is from (information imbedded in the Rewards Card), and would pay out [or not] depending on where the player is from. We don't like people from (just supposing!!) Iowa so we won't pay them.

Of course slots in different cities/states/countries can be set for different payout percentages. The various governing authorities set the allowable ranges, and the casinos select what they wnt within those ranges.

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6. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

You also must remember that the foot traffic for many of the LV casinos is going to be much, much higher than Winnipeg. Because of this, there is more money being gambled all the time and that results in more money going in and more money going out of the slots, which is more opportunities to see people win.

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"Oh, I thought the theory was that the slot machines would read where the player is from (information imbedded in the Rewards Card), and would pay out [or not] depending on where the player is from."

Is that why the slots at NYNY paid out in cheese on my last visit?

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"Also, in Colorado, it is legal to only allow a royal flush after a set no.of hands."

wascolotraveler, do you have any reference to back up that statement? Sorry, but I don't believe that. The machines are the same brands as in LV. LV regulations require that a game that simulates a real device, like video poker, must do so accurately. So every hand is a random deal of the required number of cards. The deck is shuffled between every hand in video poker. I can't find a CO regulation that specifically states that, but there are statements about randomness. Specifically, CO gaming regulations state:

"The random number generator in a slot machine must produce game plays that are random and independent, so that a complete future game outcome cannot be predicted from a previous game’s outcome."

Having a requirement to only produce a royal only after a set number of hands from a previous royal, which is what I think you're saying, would violate this regulation.

Further, that same regulation, 47.1-1224, says: "Slot machine games may use information from the outcome of a previous game in the next game provided that information cannot be used to predict the entire final outcome of the next game. The paytable must explain how the information from the previous game is used in the next game."

So, if there's some limit on how frequently royals can show up, I think this regulation implies the machine must state that.

To answer the OP's question, yes, machines are absolutely set differently in different locations. Even in Vegas, machines on the strip are generally tighter than downtown and those are tighter than "off strip" locations. Even within one casino, machines may be programmed with different payouts. Even of the same type right next to each other.

Randomness is not uniform, though. Our brains expect that if coin flips are 50/50 heads and tails, a sequence of flips should go heads, tails, heads, tails, etc. In fact, that's wrong. Its very possible to flip long sequences of heads or tails and still be random. This is "variance" without variance, nobody would gamble. If every bet of $1 gave you back exactly 90 cents, you'd get bored quickly. But variance says sometimes we will be lucky and sometimes unlucky. The casinos are in this for the long term. We're in it for the short term and variance makes us winners or losers.

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9. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

Weird, I thought for sure machines paid out based on how lovingly you caressed the payout line, which kind of troll trinkets you placed on the top of the machine and whether or not you yelled, "Osceola!" when you decided to pull the handle rather than push the button after every 17th turn.

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10. Re: Do you think the slots are set depending where you live?

You got the Jets back, what more do you want? How about the Flyers? You can have them.

Hey, Jets and Flyers, it's a natural!

Wheatie - I once flipped a nickel 100 times and it came up tails 90 times. How do you explain that?

Edited: 11 June 2013, 15:09