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BART/Muni tourist passes?

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BART/Muni tourist passes?

Are there 1 or 2-day passes? I can't find anything on the 511 website. Ideally, I would like a pass that works both both systems....Is there such a thing? One teenager of two is local and I guess is eligible for an orange pass but she says BART is "very expensive" for her to use. Has anyone sought to purchase a school pass? Do they require proof of enrollment in an eligible school? I would be happy to buy passes for both of them, if there is a short-term pass.TIA!

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1. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

Unfortunately, the Visitor Passport is for Muni only. There's only one price, $11 for 1 day, $18 for 3 days.

http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mfares/passports.htm

There is also a Muni Youth Pass for $10.

The Visitor Passport and Youth Pass are valid on all Muni rides (cable cars, historic streetcars, Metro trains, or buses). However, neither is good for BART.

If there is any way to avoid BART within the City, you should. BART charges by the length of your trip, while Muni has a flat rate. (The exception is cable cars, which have a $5.00 fare, but the passes include cable cars). Also, riding BART in the City is mostly pretty dull, because it's all in the subway until the outer residential areas where most visitors don't go.

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2. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

That is EXACTLY what I needed to know. Thanks so much!

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3. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

Buying the three day MUNI pass is a great investment, you will definitely get your money's worth.

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4. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

We will be in SF for 3 days this summer with our son...should we purchase one of these passes to get around the city? We will be staying in Union Square, but will be visiting the wharf, pier area, golden gate park and other areas? If we have this pass can we ride the cable cars unlimited for 3 days?

Thanks!

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5. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

Standard Muni fare is $1.50 per person. If your son is under 18 the fare is $.50. With these fares you also get a transfer good for rides on standard Muni vehicles for about 90-120 minutes.

Cable cars are $5.00 -- no youth fare, no transfer (yes, the city makes lots of money on cable care, but they're fun).

The Muni Passports are good for unlimited rides on both standard Muni and cable cars. But they only make economical sense if you'll be using the cable cars a lot.

Also, exact change is required on Muni.

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6. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

The cost of a Visitor Passport for a day is approximately equal to cable car fares and one other fare.

If you ride the cable car to the Wharf, Chinatown, North Beach and back, or you want to get off a cable car to sightsee and then reboard, you've almost covered the cost of a pass. This applies to kids as well, since as Sal said, there is no youth fare for cable cars.

The monthly commuter pass for residents includes the cable cars, but there's no break for anyone else. I think it would be nice to have a family rate, say, $12.00 for any party including both adults & kids up to four individuals. Cable cars are a cash cow. The City knows that no one comes here and doesn't ride the cable car, and I think it stinks to soak the tourists this way.

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7. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

* "...approximately equal to cable car fares and one other fare." *

Oops, should have said equal to two cable car fares and one other fare."

So if you're going to do a round trip on the cable car and make one other Muni trip, you break even. Any other rides are gravy.

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8. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

The 15% hotel tax soaks tourists a whole lot more than a $5 cable car fare!

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9. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

If you sit down and plan your activities for your visit, taking into account how many times you'll use muni, the answer to purchase single rides or a pass will make itself known. As others have said, if you are interested in riding the cable cars (we rode all three round trip,) the pass can be a good idea. During our trip we kept track of our rides, and at the conclusion we estimated we rode the equivalent of $47 had we purchased single fares. We had $18 muni 3-day passes.

Have a great time!

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10. Re: BART/Muni tourist passes?

Good explanation from Tptr. If you don't expect to take the minimum number of rides to make the pass pay, then obviously it isn't economical.

There is also the ease and convenience of having a pass. Sal mentioned that exact fare is needed for almost all Muni vehicles. This can be any dollar bill/coin combination. The subway has change machines, and cable car conductors have change, but otherwise, you'll need to always be sure you have the exact amount with you.