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Hawi, Hawaii
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Unfriendly

I have been wanting to say this for some time but until I read a couple of posts stating the same feelings, I was reluctant to do so.

I have traveled all over the US and to many foreign countries in Europe and South America. By in large, I find people very friendly, even places one doesn't expect it. Certain cities are notable for their friendliness, for example, Chicago is great! However, San Francisco seems to be an oddity. I have been there many, many times and have to say there is a prevelant attitude of snobbery and a coolness towards outsiders. There seems to be this feeling amonst the locals that the rest of us are rubes, lack culture and "just don't get it".

Certainly the Bay Area is a beautiful place and the unfriendliness I feel is confined mainly to the City of SF itself but come on, it ain't Paris. Curiously SF seems rather parochial.

Anybody else sense this??

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1. Re: Unfriendly

Wow! Sorry you had that experience. I wish you would describe the situations in more detail where you felt this.

I have a completely different feeling for San Francisco!

I have always found friendly people . I like to chat and have found interesting discussions in bookstores, at bus stops, in museums, at my hotel etc.

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2. Re: Unfriendly

Troll alert?

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How does one know that a person is local or not? At a concert or a museum or a cafe - what makes one stand out as a non local ?

Hawi, Hawaii
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Conversation is how one finds out. And, yes some conversations can take place on more than one level.

Asking me to specifically note incidents where people were unfriendly wouldn't be productive, no more than asking me to name incidents when I found people in NYC to be friendly. It's very subjective.

I'm certain that not everyone has had the same experiences as I. All I can tell you is that having lived in San Francisco for many years and then re-visiting it after traveling around the country for a few years, I was surprised at the difference between people there and those in other parts of the country.

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5. Re: Unfriendly

Ever hear the term: "Self Fulfilling Prophesy"? If you expect a certain behavior or people, they generally won't dissapoint you. Chuck...

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Hawi, Hawaii
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7. Re: Unfriendly

Please don't think I meant people are rude in San Francisco, they are not as a rule. I can say this, however, I have often traveled there for work with colleagues who literally had lived and worked all over the world. In short, they were sophisticated travelers. We always had a better time dining and drinking outside the city itself. Now, these are men who could walk into a bar or restaurant in Brazil, England or France, etc., and feel right at home.

Somebody asked me for specific incidents. Let me give you an idea of what I mean. I was listening on NPR to a young man who runs a speciality salami business in SF, the type known trendily as "salumi". He explained how the hand-crafted salami business was sweeping the country and it had "all started in San Francisco". One person, one dumb comment but it captures what I am talking about.

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I am the one that asked for specific incidents. IF the "salami" comment is your idea of being unfriendly or snobby then I just don't get it. So what, if he thinks that trend started in San Francisco???

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9. Re: Unfriendly

"I absolutely hate the fat tourists that roam around D.C. I don't think anyone really enjoys foreigners who invade their neighborhoods and cause disruptions."

Wow, you really seem like a nice person...And speak for yourself, but not everyone feels the same way.

I live across the street from tourist central, and don't mind domestic or foreign tourists at all. Tourism brings in much needed money to the city, and I find it interesting hearing different languages as I'm walking up the street or on the bus. I have a couple of friends in North Beach (and I also happen do the same) who make it a point to stop and offer help to people with map in hand and a lost sense of direction. We may not be the type to strike up a conversation with you on the bus, but we're really not as unfriendly as you think.

If you head off on your travels with close mindedness and negative expectations of how things will be like, I'm sure your experiences won't be too far off.

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10. Re: Unfriendly

I'm with you, riffsmom.

Jamba Juice got its start in San Luis Obispo (which is just a few miles up the road from me) and I'm rather proud of that. I don't think it makes me a snob.

San Franciscans are proud of their city, as they should be. It isn't perfect, but no city is!