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San Francisco with children

Further to the post regarding visiting San Francisco with children and where to eat, we would recommend:

Lori's Diner - about 400 yards down the hill from the Renaissance t

Roxanne's Cafe - opposite side of the road from the hotel and down a little

Uncle Vito's italian - a little way down the hill and has kids menu

All downhill towards Union Square - a steep walk back!

Days out: we went down to the AT & T stadium and stumbled upon a Giants game which was fantastic.

Definitely go to Golden Gate Park and while you're there go to the California Academy of Science

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1. Re: San Francisco with children

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Subject: All San Francisco Day Tours

Location: San Francisco, California, United States, North America

Title: Not a city for children!

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We spend a great deal of each year in San Francisco and would like to warn people with children that this is not an appropriate city for children.

Our daughter, son-in-law and our two grandchildren (a boy aged 6 and a girl aged 9) live in SF. We have been walking or touring with them on more occasions than I can name when they are confronted with visions or people that are grossly inappropriate for children to see. For example, we have seen junkies shooting up in the park across from the Embarcadero. This is a very common sight. I don't believe I have ever been there when I haven't actually seen active drug use.

As a matter of fact, we were just there on June 9th, 2012 and decided we would all go the the farmers market held at the Embarcadero on Saturday's. We parked a few blocks away and in walking to the market, crossed the park, with the children in tow, only to be confronted by scores (maybe as many as 50-100) of naked men, bodies completely hairless. It was a rally for naked (apparently men) bicyclists. We saw no signs announcing that this event was underway, although it wouldn't much have mattered since there were also many of them bicycling around the general area and it was next to impossible not to meet one face to (uhmmm) face. Our grandchildren were asking, "Why are all these men naked" and "Why don't they have any hair on their bodies?".

Our daughter said that last weekend or the one before (6/16-17 or 6/23/24/2012 I don't remember) was Gay Pride Week and, while our 6-year-old grandson was playing on the street in front of their house, a group of Dykes On Bikes rode by and shook their bare breasts at him and shouted lewd and threatening suggestions at him. He was very upset and disturbed. My daughter had to do a lot of explaining before he calmed down. When we were there this weekend, he was still talking about it, clearly traumatised.

Trust me, folks, this is not a place for small children or families. It's the grittiest city in America in which I've ever spent time -- and I've been to all of the big ones and a great many small ones. The difference with SF is that no matter where you are, you have a good chance of seeing this kind of stuff, whereas in other places, you can sort of avoid it by staying out of certain neighborhoods.

They do have some wonderful museums and sights but be fully aware that you are very likely to be confronted with things that you would probably not want your children to see.

Just a word of caution.

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I'm sorry you had such an experience. But that is the freedom and diversity of San Francisco. I'm guessing your DD and her husband don't agree or wouldn't be living in San Francisco with its sky high housing prices.

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They live there because their work is there. They say it does get depressing sometimes.

Please do not misunderstand, there are some wonderful museums and sights to see around SF, I am just trying to warn people with children to be prepared and forewarned. I love the Asian Art Museum, Golden Gate Park, the SF Ballet and many other cultural and scenic opportunities but some of this may be considered inappropriate by some families given the "freedom" of the city.

As I said before, just a word of caution.

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Well, I have friends raising children who work outside the city but choose to live in SF because they feel that the city is a much more diverse and educational environment than some suburb. And I have other friends who work in the city and pay a [very large] premium to live here in order to raise their kids here. And funny thing is, their kids seem to be well adjusted (!)

As I said earlier, I'm sure your DD and SIN (interesting, how those initials work) could save a bucket of money if they wished to move to Alameda or Contra Costa counties. Seems to be that they are living how they wish but it's you that is uncomfortable with the choice.

I admit that SF has a very low percentage of children based on the high cost of housing in town.

Edited: 06 September 2012, 01:25
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I will have to say that I think Saf Francisco is an amazing city for children and will forever leave an impression on them. I can still remember vividly my visits here when I was 12. And since moving here, I have been able to show visiting family (including children) those same joys.

Like all big cities, SF has its grit, it's share of homelessness, and neighborhoods that shouldn't be on the tour. But I could fill an itinerary with amazing natural and man-made wonders that would be unforgettable at all ages.

San Francisco is a must-see city, and kids are a target audience.

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Anyone thinking of avoiding SF because of the naked bike ride listed in Post #2 should be aware that you will also have to avoid cities like London, Seattle, Portland, and Chicago -- a total of 74 cities, in 17 countries, from the United States to United Kingdom and Hungary to Paraguay -- on that one day.

And Dykes on Bikes can be found in Melbourne, Paris, London, Tokyo, Toronto, Sydney, Zurich and more, with a total of 22 chapters.

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I have lived in SF all my life and I have to say our politicians today care nothing about quality of life issues. My neighborhood, Eureka Valley, is presently overrun with litter, homeless people and naked men walking around, and when I complain to City Hall I'm told that there are too many other issues of greater importance. I love SF but I would not recommend visiting the city at this time. Some of my neighbors and I continue trying to make this City a safer and welcoming place for all people but presently if you are easily offended you will not like the City - and if you are a mother with a stroller, don't even think about coming to san francisco because no city is less welcoming to children than this one.

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I'm sorry, but this thread made me chuckle. I have a hard time picturing a lesbian on a motorcycle taunting a boy with (shock!) nude breasts!

I believe you'll find that children only make a big deal out of things if the adults they are with do the same.

I'll also make the observation that we do get some craziness here, but a lot of it is people who are more restricted where they come from, so when they have the freedom to do something, they tend to overcompensate and go a bit nuts.

Nudity is not against the law in San Francisco, but lewd acts in public are. It's always very telling that American culture is more offended by nudity and doesn't blink an eye at violence.