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Final itinerary - help please

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Final itinerary - help please

After lots of planning my OH now knows we are going to New York for Christmas for his 40th birthday present.

Here is my draft itinerary- does it look ok?

Xmas eve -24th

Arrive airport 12.40

Customs and luggage (12.40-2.40)

Check in 4.30pm

Carols in Washington Square Park 5pm


Carols Gramercy Park 6pm

Drinks Raines Law Room

Walk back to Times Square via:

Union Square, Flatiron Building, ESB, Grand Central, New York Public Library, Byrant Park Christmas Market (open til 8pm)

Dinner - Pub - Dutch Fred near hotel 8pm reservation

Xmas Day - Monday 25th

St Patrick’s Cathedral?

Byrant Park Christmas Market

QZabar’s - 2244 Broadway (80th st) - open 9-5pm

Central Park

TOTR- 3.15pm slot (2.45-5)

See Rockefeller centre

5th Avenue Christmas decorations

Virgils BBQ - 7.15pm


Boxing Day - Tues 26th

Brooklyn Bridge

9/11 memorial

World trade centre

7-9pm - circle line cruise?

Press lounge bar (roof top bar) at ink48 hotel

Taboon or Gotham West Market

Meal Hell's Kitchen

Wed 27th

9.45-11.45 - Greenwich walking tour?

The high line via chelsea market

Smaller Jazz club Greenwich Village

Hell's Kitchen cocktail bar (near hotel)

Thurs 28th

SOL express cruise or

Straten island ferry to view SOL

Grand Central (audio tour)

Check out 3pm

Leave for airport 6pm

Flight 10.10pm

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1. Re: Final itinerary - help please

I think it's a fun plan overall, but some of the timings and logistics don't quite work.

You may not be able to get to Christmas Eve Caroling on arrival day. Just be prepared for that so you aren't too disappointed. Then if all goes well and you make it, it will be a pleasant surprise.

If you do get there, I'm not sure that you will be able to enjoy drinks at Raines Law Room and then meander back towards Times Square past the landmarks you list, then expect to get to the Bryant Park Holiday markets in time to enjoy the market before its 8pm closure. Consider planning to meander to see Holiday window displays instead, that way you won't feel so rushed. Plus you also have Bryant Park Christmas Market listed for Christmas Day

Oops, but you have 8pm dinner reservations. If you end up caroling at Gramercy Park at 6pm, I don't think you can have drinks and do all that wandering and expect to have dinner at 8pm even if you skip Bryant Park. If you do caroling at 5pm, then maybe but it still seems like a lot.

Have you confirmed that Raines Law Room will be open Christmas Eve? It probably will, but it might be worth double checking.

Christmas Day: You have Virgil's BBQ listed for dinner but also Hearth?

On the 26th, you have a cruise until 9pm and plan cocktails after that? Then you have listed Taboon or Gotham West Market and Meal in Hell's Kitchen. That will be a late dinner. Not impossible, but is that really what you intended? Gotham West Market closes at 10pm.

Weds, 27th: You are starting in Greenwich Village (note, it's never called just Greenwich -- that's a different place), then heading up the High Line to Hell's Kitchen (where the High Line ends), then heading back down to Greenwich Village for Small's that night then heading back up to Hell's Kitchen for more drinks?. Ideally, it would be better to be at Greenwich Village at the end of the day instead of the start of the day. More will be open too.

The basic plan for Greenwich Village that day is fine. It's just the up and down twice that doesn't make sense. Also note that the High Line Could be very cold and windy. It's an elevated platform right next to the Hudson river. Plus it's not quite as appealing in winter because the gardens are dormant. It's still interesting, but IMO not if it's bitterly cold up there. Hope for mild weather or consider skipping it in favor of exploring great neighborhoods near Greenwich Village

Also note that Small's is open only lat night. The way you have it written out makes it look like you plan to go there in the afternoon.

Thurs: If you decide to settle for SOL views from the Staten Island Ferry, you should do that on the day that you are down there in that area (Tues) instead of making a special trip down on Thursday. .

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2. Re: Final itinerary - help please

Too much on your list for arrival day. Where is your hotel?

It gets dark by about 4 and completely dark by 4:30 this time of year. "Union Square, Flatiron Building, ESB, Grand Central, New York Public Library, Byrant Park Christmas Market (open til 8pm)..." You just can't squeeze all of that in unless you have about three more hours.

St. Patrick's -- it will be very, very crowded for Christmas. You might want to choose another time. Check to make sure you don't need a ticket for any of the masses. I think you do need them for Christmas eve, but you might also need them in the a.m.

We don't have Boxing Day here. It's just "the day after Christmas."

Olney, Maryland
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3. Re: Final itinerary - help please

24th: Perfect

25th: Is the Xmas Market open on Xmas Day? I don't know. Is Zabar's open? If so, excellent choice. You could walk over the Brooklyn Bridge on the 25th, and do other things other days. This is one of the rare days that almost everything except restaurants is closed (except in Boro Park, Brooklyn, the Golder's Green of NYC).

26th: There must be more that you can do during the day. In the US, it's just a day of the week, everybody is at work, and everything runs as normal.

27th: Again, a little light; Note that it's NOT called "Greenwich" ,that's in England; it's called "Greenwich Village", and often the shortcut "the Village" or "the West Village" is used. You could see Chinatown, Wall Street, Central Park, the East Village, a Broadway show (getting discounts through "tkts" or Playbill.com), etc.

The 28th looks good too, but you might find different things to do; luckily you have no reservations for anything but TOTR. Good idea.

Remember the subway runs on Xmas Day quite normally, just like a Sunday, which means a train every 5-7 minutes.

You might like the 3-hour narrated cruise around the entire island of Manhattan, run by Circle Lines and leaving from 42nd and 12th. I've taken it almost every decade of my life (meaning at least 7 times). It's great.

Edited: 12 December 2017, 22:35
Olney, Maryland
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4. Re: Final itinerary - help please

It may seem odd that's it's dark by 4:00, because it isn't really, but because of the tall buildings, it feels like twilight for a long time, unlike most places where there aren't 70-story buildings everywhere.

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5. Re: Final itinerary - help please

Yes, Bryant Park Holiday Market is open on December 25. So is Zabars.

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6. Re: Final itinerary - help please

Thank you everyone for your time and feedback

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