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European East Pass traveling within Austria

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European East Pass traveling within Austria

We will be traveling to Salzburg from Mayrhofen in Mar 2011. We are planing to purchase the European East Pass for our travel through out eastern Europe.

1) Does the European East Pass cover the train route from Mayrhofen to Salzburg?

2) How long does the journey take from Mayrhofen to Salzburg?

3) How to get from from Mayrhofen to Salzburg by train?

4) We will spent 4 days in Mayrhofen (as base). We do not ski, but would like to visit the near by Hintertux Glacier, try out tobogganing, make day trip to Innbruck and Hall. Do you think we need to purchase the Innbruck/Tirol card for discount in traveling in the region here?

Kindly advise and many thanks in advance.

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1. Re: European East Pass traveling within Austria

Ad 1) Please check that with the issuing agency. Basically, the railway operator that provides transportation between Mayrhofen (Zillertal Valley) and Jenbach (Access point to ÖBB network) is private and not attributable to ÖBB, our national railway operator. As far as I know, regular tickets issued by ÖBB are also valid on trains going to Mayrhofen. But that does not necessarily mean that they also accept international passes.

Ad 2+3) http://fahrplan.oebb.at/bin/query.exe/e

Ad 4) Such passes are often a good bargain but have to be evaluated thoroughly. Whether it is better in your case can't be said easily.

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2. Re: European East Pass traveling within Austria

NB unless you are going to Ukraine or Russia you will not be going to Eastern Europe, and rail passes are generally poor value - have a read through this europetrainsguide.com/Advice/Rail-Passes/Rai…

If you give some idea of where you will be travelling to, then we can give you more specific advice as to whether you would be better off buying point-to-point tickets. In Central Europe trains tickets and regional passes bought locally are very good value and as Mikey says you would have to evaluate whether it would be the best for you.

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Hi Mikey & GCEK,

Thanks for your input. I have done a check myself on the terms and condition of the East European Pass on the rail Europe website. It says

"The European East Pass is valid on all non-stop trains on the German leg of the section between Kufstein and Salzburg".

My 19 days Europe trip itinerary is as follow:

23 Mar --> Fly from Singapore to Munich --> transfer to Fussen

24 Mar --> In fussen to visit the castles near by

25 Mar --> Stop by Mittenwald for a day trip before moving on to Mayrhofen (as base to explore Tirol)

26 Mar --> Visit to the nearby glacier in Mayrhofen

27 Mar --> Day trip to Innbruck

28 Mar --> Day trip to Hall

29 Mar --> Transfer from Mayrhofen to Salzburg

30 Mar --> Tour in Salzburg

31 Mar --> Day trip to Hallstatt

1 Apr --> Transfer to Zell amm see

2 Apr --> Day trip to Kaprun

3 Apr --> Transfer to Vienna

4 Apr --> Tour in Vienna

5 Apr --> Transfer to Budapest

6 Apr --> Tour in Budapest

7 Apr --> Tour in Budapest

8 Apr --> Transfer to Prague

9 Apr --> Tour in Prague

10 Apr --> Tour in Prague

11 Apr --> Fly back from Prague to Singapore

The entire trip will focus more on Austria. Does the German leg of the section between Kufstein and Salzburg cover the places we wanted to visit?? Do you think it is worth getting the European east pass? Or shall we get other pasess that can give us some discount for traveling within Austria and other parts in Eastern Europe? By the way, our group consistes of 4 travelers. 2 are senior citizens (age > 65 years old). We don't intend to ski in the region.

Pls help we really do not which pass is suitable for our traveling. Many many thanks in advance......Cheers!

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4. Re: European East Pass traveling within Austria

That's a fine itinerary but with some illogical parts. E.g. you proceed to Zell am See and Kaprun after Salzburg. If you glance on a map, you'd see that these places are actually (roughly) between Mayrhofen and Salzburg (but unfortunately not along the Innsbruck-Kufstein-Salzburg railway line. The citation: "The European East Pass is valid on all non-stop trains on the German leg of the section between Kufstein and Salzburg" only means that the pass is also valid on Austrian domestic trains which run over German territory (because of the better topography). They do not stop while in Germany and thus are seen as domestic trains.

Innsbruck and Hall are places located next to each other. Hall can actually be seen as "suburb" of Innsbruck. It therefore does not make sense to go to Hall on an other day.

I'd go go to Zell am See directly from Mayrhofen. Kaprun is a small village Southwest of Zell am See. I suppose you intend to visit the Kitzsteinhorn Glacier there as the village itself does not justify a full day. Thereafter go on to Salzburg by train.

Info on transportation:

ÖBB, our national railway operator, offers a pass that allows unlimited rides on SLOWER LOCAL AND REGIONAL trains for a day. It is tailored for small groups consisting of 2-5 people and always costs 28€. You could use it on a few sectors where ÖBB runs a railway line, e.g. Scharnitz (=State Border between Germany and Austria on the way from Mittenwald towards Innsbruck) to Innsbruck, Innsbruck to Jenbach, Jenbach to Zell am See, Zell am See to Salzburg. Just do not forget that it is only valid for a day. As mentioned in my first response, the railway line running from Jenbach to Mayrhofen is not attributable to ÖBB, hence their special tickets are not valid. Between Salzburg and Vienna ride a fast train on which the mentioned pass is not valid! Between Vienna and Budapest you can buy cheap tickets in advance using the website of ÖBB.

Itinerary Planner of Austrian Railways ÖBB:

http://fahrplan.oebb.at/bin/query.exe/e

Info about the Einach-Raus-Ticket:

oebb.at/en/…index.jsp

Edited: 05 January 2011, 10:06
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5. Re: European East Pass traveling within Austria

The 'East European pass' is definitely a misnomer as you are going nowhere near Eastern Europe. If you even suggested to Austrians and Czechs that they were Eastern Europeans they are likely to be insulted, so be careful :)

Rail Europe is a name that should be avoided when travelling by rail - as they a re-seller which has nothing to do with any of the European rail companies, they charge substantial excesses, and passes are never good value.

From what I can see you can save a lot of money by purchasing point-to-point tickets or local passes. The only ticket that you will have to buy in advance is Vienna to Budapest, which costs €19 from www.oebb.at . Budapest to Prague is also €19 which you buy in Budapest. With 4 travellers you will get quite good group discounts on major routes (e.g. Salzburg - Vienna) - tickets for which you buy on the day, and for local routes you can get an 'Einfach-raus-ticket' which costs €28 for up to 5 passengers and is valid all day. The same is true between Munich and Salzburg - in Germany they have a ''Bayern Ticket' which works on the same principles.

Hope this helps

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6. Re: European East Pass traveling within Austria

Hi Mikey & GCEK,

Yes, i agreed with you guys. Have done rough calculation on the point to point and day passes myself. We could save $$ on traveling as compared to the Eurorail pass. Thanks alot for your advise.

Hi Mikey,

U are right, it makes more sense to do Zell am see prior to Salzburg.

Cheers !!!

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