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Advice and Tips wanted

Hartlepool
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Advice and Tips wanted

Hi,

Just booked to stay in Icmeler at the L Etoile from 16th April for 2 weeks. There is 4 of us in our party and a couple we have just met on the Nile Cruise are going to meet us over there.Want to make it a special holiday as we will be celeberating a birthday and a 31st wedding anniversary, any advice as to what to do? Any guides who would take us out and about on boat trips etc.

Thanks

Marie

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1. Re: Advice and Tips wanted

Really sorry to say this but Icmeler wont be up and running during your holiday, As most places dont open up to the last week in April, Fo trips I suggest you go into Marmaris and try and book them down by the harbour maina areas.

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hi yeh it is early for you to be going, there probably wont be many places open then, but in marmaris there will be. If u go on a dolmus (bus) they run frequently and its only about 2 turkish lira which isnt even a pound and its only about 10 mins on the bus. there is an outside garden cafe at the top of icmeler next to a play park it is really nice and u can sit and have chai a tukish tea. I expect friends bar and irish bar will be open then, and they are both good places to go and they will put on entertainment. There is a dolphin centre which I think opens in april and you can arrange to swim with the doplhins. if you go on www.icmeleronline.com they have a list of excursions on there including the trip with dolphins. If they r doing it then i reccomend going on a jeep safari, its a fun day out and only costs about £10. You can go and visit some turkish baths and there are many different excursions you can do to make your time memorable. Some trips you can go scuba diving/ water rafting depending on how adventourus you are, also things like horse riding. they are reasonable prices, you could also take a day trip to greece, so u r getting to holidays for the price of one. I hope this is helpful for u x

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3. Re: Advice and Tips wanted

Please do not sign up for the dolphin excursion unless you think it is acceptable for the following:

3. Re: Dolphin research center

Dec 14, 2009, 2:05 AM

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for Gocek

I see that for a mere 275 pounds you can be a dolphin trainer for a day.

Wonder if they show you how to dispose of them when they die, which they frequently do.

Read this and think again:

"Wild vs. Captive: Wild dolphins can swim over 40 miles a day, they engage in mating, foraging, fighting and play behavior with their pod members and they use their echolocation to explore their diverse ocean environment. In contrast, captive dolphins are forced to swim in endless circles in artificial habitats, interact with unfamiliar dolphins and other species, eat dead fish, and perform behaviors that are unnatural and in some cases painful. Captive dolphins also face exposure to human infection and bacteria, chemicals such as chlorine, and suffer from stress-related illnesses.

Things to look for at captive dolphin shows and facilities:

Dolphins poking their head above water. Captive dolphins spend up to 80% of their time at the surface of the water seeking scraps of food and attention. This is in direct contrast to wild dolphins who spend 80% of their time below the surface of the water playing, hunting and exploring.

Beaching themselves as part of the show so that visitors can pet or kiss them. If left in this position for an extended period, a dolphin's immense weight on land would slowly crush its internal organs. Captive dolphins have been trained to ignore their natural instincts; wild dolphins never voluntarily beach themselves.

Vocalizing for food rewards and nodding their head as if to say "yes" or "no" and offering "handshakes" or waving at the audience with their pectoral fins. Dolphins are trained through food deprivation. When they successfully perform a trick they are rewarded with scraps of fish. If a captive dolphin waves to you, it is because it is hungry, plain and simple.

Swimming in circles or constantly peering through the fences (stereotypical behavior) or floating listlessly on the surface of the water. These behaviors indicate that the animal is bored and psychologically stressed. Wild dolphins rarely lie still and with the entire ocean at their disposal, they would have no need to swim in circles!

All of the above are unnatural behaviors consistently exhibited by captive dolphins. Dolphins perform these behaviors because they have been trained to do so using "positive reinforcements" - the captivity industry's politically correct term for food deprivation. They wave to the audience and kiss the trainer because they are hungry, not because they desire human interaction and sadly, they often float motionless in their tanks between shows because they are bored or lonely.

It's ok to use captive-born dolphins, right? Wrong. While countless dolphins are still ripped from the wild to populate SWTD facilities, some programs use captive-born animals instead. They hold up their use of captive-born dolphins like a trophy, proof of their mission to conserve dolphins. The truth of the matter is that captive breeding programs offer no contribution to the conservation of wild dolphin populations, acting instead to replenish the industry's dolphins when supplies run low. The fact is, whether born in captivity or pulled kicking and screaming from the ocean, all dolphins share the same physiological and psychological needs.

Setting a bad example: Unfortunately, the commercial success of SWTD programs and the high profile of the larger facilities in the U.S. have spawned a legion of copycat operations in the Caribbean, Mexico, Latin America and around the world. These operations are the driving force behind a sharp rise in dolphin captures from the wild. Many of these new SWTD programs lack the necessary funds and staff to properly care for the dolphins.

Perhaps the most damaging aspect of the SWTD industry is the misconception it perpetuates among the general public. SWTD programs present themselves as "educational" and "eco-friendly". They market themselves to people who love dolphins, care about conservation and are looking for a tangible way to express this interest. What SWTD participants don't realize is that by patronizing these programs, they are not only contributing to this expanding, profit-driven industry, but they are ensuring that dolphins will continue to be captured from the wild and suffer in captivity.

Love dolphins? Don't buy a ticket! Untold numbers of dolphins die during the notoriously violent wild captures. These captures are carried out in secret - far from the public's eye - so obtaining an accurate number of dolphins killed is nearly impossible. What we do know is that the whole process is so traumatic that mortality rates of dolphins captured from the wild shoot up six-fold in the first five days of confinement. To the captivity industry, these numbers are accepted as standard operating expenses, but if this information was printed on SWTD brochures, it is unlikely that any person who cares about dolphins would purchase a ticket."

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