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Travelling with 4M Express from Puno to Chivay

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Travelling with 4M Express from Puno to Chivay

I have read some mixed messages about 4M Express, why I just want to add my experience:

In order to save a day - and an over night stay in Arequipa - we wanted to go directly to Chivay for a Colca canyon trek. As 4M Express is the only bus company offering this route, we decided to pay the usd 50/pax and bought the tickets at the bus terminal in Puno. We asked about the size of the bus and was promised it was a large, modern turist bus. We also asked about any additional cost and was promised that there would be none. The seller promised that we would be picked up at our hotel in Puno the next morning at 5:50.

We were picked up (as promised), it turned out that we were the only 2 pax on the bus. The bus was a nice, modern bus (as promised) and there was an english/spanish speaking guide on board.

We had three stops on the way (baño + photos), a cup of coffee/tea/mate and a snack on the 2. stop (all good quality). The guide knew a lot of stuff about Peru/the region/the nature, so she was just fine as well. We arrived at Chivay at 12:00 and was dropped of at our hostal, which was very close to the bus terminal. We did have to pay 70 soles/pax for entry into the Colga Canyon park. This is inevitable, but I wish we were told up front.

All in all a very good experience with a good driver, a good bus and a good guide. Whether it is the usd 50 worth is probably an individual decision, but for us it was OK to avoid Arequipa.

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1. Re: Travelling with 4M Express from Puno to Chivay

I'm pushed for time i feel . we arrive on this same bus and i'm hoping someone could tell me how to get out to see the condors at the lookout by 4pm i believe. ( if they decide to turn up then) i would like to get down to Arequipa that night, doesn't matter how late but safety first. Hoping its possible as i have a bus at 530 am to catch . or i will have to give the Colca Canyon and condors a miss.

hoping someone has an idea for me . thanks Brenda

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2. Re: Travelling with 4M Express from Puno to Chivay

The condors are only out in the morning around 8 or 9. You can’t see them in the afternoon.

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3. Re: Travelling with 4M Express from Puno to Chivay

We were told you can see condors 7 to 10 in the morning. But also that the condors return to their caves before the sun sets. You could get to the Cruz del Condor by bus but how are you then going to continue to Cabanaconde or go back to Chivay? I think you will have to take a taxi. And if you want to take a bus back to Arequipa afterwards I believe there is a very late bus (10 pm or midnight but you will have to confirm that and also the arrival time in Arequipa). Can't you take a later bus from Arequipa?

You could try contacting iPeru (tourist info) in Arequipa. They were very helpful but I never tried emailing them: iperuarequipa@promperu.gob.pe

https://www.peru.travel/iperu.aspx

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