On scenic 30 from Troutdale, you first pass by the Women's Forum State Scenic Viewpoint. Pull over, it's just a pull over with parking and several viewing points, but the view looking away from the direction of Portland down the gorge is much better here than from Crown Point. However, the drawback is that you cannot see well back to Portland---it's mainly a one directional view but it is more spectacular here and with many fewer obstructions, noise, people, etc.
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